Saturday, January 28, 2006
Re: session 27/01/06
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DATE: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:15:35 -0800
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: session 27/01/06
POSTER: tobire
REPLY TO: alt.ucp
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On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:15:35 -0800,
tobire wrote:
> I've been following the recent posts here,
Way Cool!
> and I have a few general comments to make.
Way Cool!
> The UCP "Universal Conscious plot" is very important in doing UCP.
YESSENCE!
It gives you a Universal Perspective
to COMPARE your own viewpoint to!
That helps you SH*IF*T!
> It seems to work from left to right.
That's just an apparency.
Everything on the same level
is equivalent to everything
else at that same level.
> On the right hand side you have "Ethics conditions", "Target Series",
> "Admin scale", these are doingness actions.
But EVERY emotion IS a doingness!
The different columns just allow you
to see the same thing from many
different perspectives.
> I think the chart is like a cylinder.You do UCP, brings up
> your tone level, improves your awareness, so now you have to attend to
> some doingness actions,
YESSENCE!
> making some progress on the right hand side,
> improve ethics conditions, do your admin scale, target series, come
> right around again, move up the tone scale, awareness charateristics,
> do more UCP.
I agree every change in awareness
brings some change in doingness.
But upward motion in
any column of the chart
raises all columns equally.
I have noticed that one column
will seem real or indicate to me
when the others don't register,
so I go with my reality/attention.
If you are talking about the
thought/action dicotomy,
that's common to every
tone level below zero.
It starts in DETACHMENT
and goes down through
DUALITY, DISPERSAL,
DISASSOCIATION and
DISCONNECTION, etc.
When you have integrated your
thoughts and your actions, you
are already up to zero/failure!
> I suspect If you do not attend to ethics and the right sideof the chart,
> very little forward progress will be made.
Tone Level *IS* Ethics.
It's what you ARE DOING.
When your awareness changes,
your actions naturally change too.
> You may even booby
> trap yourself and end up back down at "BEING NOTHING" (-20) -
> Disassociation, Not Responsible for -
I've NEVER seen anyone
go down tone doing ucp.
They may blow off a
dramatized happy face,
to show criminal confusion,
but that's really great progress!
> and all the BS that goes along with that.
That's not a danger from UCP.
> It does not matter how many hours you do, if you completelyneglect the
> right side of the chart you are going nowhere.
If you SEE something new,
you have already gone far!
Your actions will ALWAYS
reflect your perceptions!
> Above 22 is all about responsibility, contributing to, Production,
> attaining targets. In other words creating big effects, not negative
> ones.
Sure. But lifting your own tone
level at all, no matter where it is,
is a GREAT BIG POSITIVE effect!
> Probably UCP is badly in need of an operations manual,
Sure! We need a LOT!
I haven't updated the
web site in three years!
> something to be applied,
N-Lightenment Now! tells
you ALL the critical data!
With that and the chart,
you can recreate the rest.
I did it with much less!
> otherwise you end up in too much introspection,
????
Introspection, plus COMPARING
is what UCP is all about. When
your attention HEXTROVERTS,
then it's time to DO something!
> like a game of snakes and ladders,
> there is always a possibility of slippingright back down from where you
> started.
You COULD kill yourself right now!
But I doubt it's a real danger to us.
> I thought nothing of this site:
WOW! NO THOUGHTS!
ALREADY IT WORKED!
IT'S MAGIC ON YOU!
> http://www.puresilence.org
> Pretentious wankery.
I didn't get that at all.
I read a couple of his
essays. Maybe they
are working to get the
actual results of UCP?
Something Frank referenced
talked about 20 or 30 years
to turn off the mind. Frank
took less than 1,000 hours!
And there's a big
pack following him!
I suspect UCP may be THE
most efficient method of
achieving THEIR goal! :-)
Talk about over full circles
overflowing into each other!
LOTS of people go hexterior
with perception in Scientology,
accidents, operations, ETC.
But usually its just a freak event.
It happens. It's gone. It's over.
THEY DON'T STAY THAT WAY!
Though they are often quite
changed by the memory!
One really cool thing about UCP
is the gains are SO STABLE!
Maybe Frank is closing in on being
STABLY HEXTERIOR with perception,
due to his vast UCP hexperience.
Maybe UCP is the prep work
or setups for pure silence?
I.E. The METHOD of UCP
works by COMPARING now
with past and future. When
you get into the ETERNAL,
that methodology won't go.
It's like the END of a UCP session,
when you have already done the
heavy lifting, and you simply need
to stop the effort to let it happen.
RELAX AND ENJOY THE SHOW!
That's before or beyond the
rational structure of UCP.
When I was fasting a lot and
closing in on death and doing
the first UCP chart, I wanted to
=================
STOP EVERYTHING!
=================
I wanted to shut *ALL* my thoughts down.
Turn them off completely! NO noise at all!
Complete Silence! Then I wanted to very
carefully consider EACH ONE individually
against that background of silence, so I
could focus on each one and either kill it,
integrate it, or rewrite it to my new specs.
With so many thoughts blazing constantly,
you can't really focus on any one very well.
[Huge Thanks to Hobri Hope Hizer, who taught
me fasting . . . and so much I didn't learn at all.]
But if you could consider each one carefully
as itself, then you can see it hextra clearly.
Fasting lets you shut your body way down.
[This is hexellently good for it, by the way!]
You're not quite dead, but all unnecessary
expenditure of energy gets eliminated.
There is SO much you are NOT DOING!
Food and sex are irrelevant, plus all
the stuff connected with them. What
does that leave to do with yourself?
Your energy level is blotto.
You withdraw into yourself.
TIME SLOWS DOWN!
AND FINALLY YOUR
ATTENTION IS FREE!
SO YOU CAN LOOK!
AND YOU CAN SEE!
WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT?
MYSELF?
MY HEXPERIENCE OF MYSELF?
????
THE HOLY GRAIL QUEST TO UNDERSTAND
CONSCIOUSNESS OR AWARENESS ITSELF?
????
Sounds good to me!
That shifted my attention to the ucp chart,
[which existed mostly in I*MAGI*nation], in
a super-focused EFFORT producing the
chart itself, and a NEW UNDERSTANDING!
And a 1981 book titled
"Til Death Do Us Part".
And the discovery or creation of the
Universal Clearing Process, now the
Universal Conscious Practice.
Eventually that full circled
until it finally full cycled, and
Frank ran into non-duality so
hard even he couldn't deny it!
The first of *MANY* UCProducts
to be launched into non-duality!
*PERFECT* WAY COOL!
THANKS FOR WRITING!
O
--- )
KONCHOK PENDAY
KP@net-prophet.net = email
http://net-prophet.net/ = website
alt.ucp = the ucp usenet newsgroup
blogicalthought.blogspot.com = blog
INTEGRATOR: Universal Conscious Plot:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
N-L!GHTENMENT! . . . R!GHT! . . . *NOW!*
*TOTALLY FREE!* @ http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
Unmoderated public usenet newsgroup = alt.ucp
*DO* THE UN!VERSAL CONSC!OUS PRACT!CE!
*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO P'R'E'SENT!
UCP !S THE *CRUX* OF RAT!ONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT !S THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSC!OUSNESS!
alt.ucp = THE UN!VERS!TY OF CONSC!OUSNESS!
YOU CAN RA!SE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SP!R!TUAL EVELUTION!
USE THE FREE V!RTUAL W!TNESS ONL!NE NOW!
ONE S!ZE F!TS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
!NQU!RE W!TH!N, ABOUT BECOMING YOURS'ELF!
P!NNACLE PATHS P!TCH PERFECT PER!METERS!
THE PR!ZE PATH !S A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL N-L!GHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODH!SATTVAS
S!NCE THE SECOND M!LLENN!UM
ONE BODH!SATTVA AT A T!ME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
alt.ucp posting history online at google.com . . .
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugroup=alt.ucp&lr=&num=100&hl=en
$*ELF FUN*D THE GREAT GAME: LET'S ALL GO SANE RIGHT NOW!
$END $ TO KP@net-prophet.net VIA paypal.com . . . and DO UCP!
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DATE: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:15:35 -0800
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: session 27/01/06
POSTER: tobire
REPLY TO: alt.ucp
NEW DISTRIBUTION:
BLOG: blogicalthought.blogspot.com
NEWSGROUPS: alt.ucp,alt.consciousness,alt.meditation,alt.self-improve,alt.spiritual.enhancement,alt.religion.scientology,alt.clearing.technology,
==========================================================================
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:15:35 -0800,
tobire
> I've been following the recent posts here,
Way Cool!
> and I have a few general comments to make.
Way Cool!
> The UCP "Universal Conscious plot" is very important in doing UCP.
YESSENCE!
It gives you a Universal Perspective
to COMPARE your own viewpoint to!
That helps you SH*IF*T!
> It seems to work from left to right.
That's just an apparency.
Everything on the same level
is equivalent to everything
else at that same level.
> On the right hand side you have "Ethics conditions", "Target Series",
> "Admin scale", these are doingness actions.
But EVERY emotion IS a doingness!
The different columns just allow you
to see the same thing from many
different perspectives.
> I think the chart is like a cylinder.You do UCP, brings up
> your tone level, improves your awareness, so now you have to attend to
> some doingness actions,
YESSENCE!
> making some progress on the right hand side,
> improve ethics conditions, do your admin scale, target series, come
> right around again, move up the tone scale, awareness charateristics,
> do more UCP.
I agree every change in awareness
brings some change in doingness.
But upward motion in
any column of the chart
raises all columns equally.
I have noticed that one column
will seem real or indicate to me
when the others don't register,
so I go with my reality/attention.
If you are talking about the
thought/action dicotomy,
that's common to every
tone level below zero.
It starts in DETACHMENT
and goes down through
DUALITY, DISPERSAL,
DISASSOCIATION and
DISCONNECTION, etc.
When you have integrated your
thoughts and your actions, you
are already up to zero/failure!
> I suspect If you do not attend to ethics and the right sideof the chart,
> very little forward progress will be made.
Tone Level *IS* Ethics.
It's what you ARE DOING.
When your awareness changes,
your actions naturally change too.
> You may even booby
> trap yourself and end up back down at "BEING NOTHING" (-20) -
> Disassociation, Not Responsible for -
I've NEVER seen anyone
go down tone doing ucp.
They may blow off a
dramatized happy face,
to show criminal confusion,
but that's really great progress!
> and all the BS that goes along with that.
That's not a danger from UCP.
> It does not matter how many hours you do, if you completelyneglect the
> right side of the chart you are going nowhere.
If you SEE something new,
you have already gone far!
Your actions will ALWAYS
reflect your perceptions!
> Above 22 is all about responsibility, contributing to, Production,
> attaining targets. In other words creating big effects, not negative
> ones.
Sure. But lifting your own tone
level at all, no matter where it is,
is a GREAT BIG POSITIVE effect!
> Probably UCP is badly in need of an operations manual,
Sure! We need a LOT!
I haven't updated the
web site in three years!
> something to be applied,
N-Lightenment Now! tells
you ALL the critical data!
With that and the chart,
you can recreate the rest.
I did it with much less!
> otherwise you end up in too much introspection,
????
Introspection, plus COMPARING
is what UCP is all about. When
your attention HEXTROVERTS,
then it's time to DO something!
> like a game of snakes and ladders,
> there is always a possibility of slippingright back down from where you
> started.
You COULD kill yourself right now!
But I doubt it's a real danger to us.
> I thought nothing of this site:
WOW! NO THOUGHTS!
ALREADY IT WORKED!
IT'S MAGIC ON YOU!
> http://www.puresilence.org
> Pretentious wankery.
I didn't get that at all.
I read a couple of his
essays. Maybe they
are working to get the
actual results of UCP?
Something Frank referenced
talked about 20 or 30 years
to turn off the mind. Frank
took less than 1,000 hours!
And there's a big
pack following him!
I suspect UCP may be THE
most efficient method of
achieving THEIR goal! :-)
Talk about over full circles
overflowing into each other!
LOTS of people go hexterior
with perception in Scientology,
accidents, operations, ETC.
But usually its just a freak event.
It happens. It's gone. It's over.
THEY DON'T STAY THAT WAY!
Though they are often quite
changed by the memory!
One really cool thing about UCP
is the gains are SO STABLE!
Maybe Frank is closing in on being
STABLY HEXTERIOR with perception,
due to his vast UCP hexperience.
Maybe UCP is the prep work
or setups for pure silence?
I.E. The METHOD of UCP
works by COMPARING now
with past and future. When
you get into the ETERNAL,
that methodology won't go.
It's like the END of a UCP session,
when you have already done the
heavy lifting, and you simply need
to stop the effort to let it happen.
RELAX AND ENJOY THE SHOW!
That's before or beyond the
rational structure of UCP.
When I was fasting a lot and
closing in on death and doing
the first UCP chart, I wanted to
=================
STOP EVERYTHING!
=================
I wanted to shut *ALL* my thoughts down.
Turn them off completely! NO noise at all!
Complete Silence! Then I wanted to very
carefully consider EACH ONE individually
against that background of silence, so I
could focus on each one and either kill it,
integrate it, or rewrite it to my new specs.
With so many thoughts blazing constantly,
you can't really focus on any one very well.
[Huge Thanks to Hobri Hope Hizer, who taught
me fasting . . . and so much I didn't learn at all.]
But if you could consider each one carefully
as itself, then you can see it hextra clearly.
Fasting lets you shut your body way down.
[This is hexellently good for it, by the way!]
You're not quite dead, but all unnecessary
expenditure of energy gets eliminated.
There is SO much you are NOT DOING!
Food and sex are irrelevant, plus all
the stuff connected with them. What
does that leave to do with yourself?
Your energy level is blotto.
You withdraw into yourself.
TIME SLOWS DOWN!
AND FINALLY YOUR
ATTENTION IS FREE!
SO YOU CAN LOOK!
AND YOU CAN SEE!
WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT?
MYSELF?
MY HEXPERIENCE OF MYSELF?
????
THE HOLY GRAIL QUEST TO UNDERSTAND
CONSCIOUSNESS OR AWARENESS ITSELF?
????
Sounds good to me!
That shifted my attention to the ucp chart,
[which existed mostly in I*MAGI*nation], in
a super-focused EFFORT producing the
chart itself, and a NEW UNDERSTANDING!
And a 1981 book titled
"Til Death Do Us Part".
And the discovery or creation of the
Universal Clearing Process, now the
Universal Conscious Practice.
Eventually that full circled
until it finally full cycled, and
Frank ran into non-duality so
hard even he couldn't deny it!
The first of *MANY* UCProducts
to be launched into non-duality!
*PERFECT* WAY COOL!
THANKS FOR WRITING!
O
--- )
KONCHOK PENDAY
KP@net-prophet.net = email
http://net-prophet.net/ = website
alt.ucp = the ucp usenet newsgroup
blogicalthought.blogspot.com = blog
INTEGRATOR: Universal Conscious Plot:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
N-L!GHTENMENT! . . . R!GHT! . . . *NOW!*
*TOTALLY FREE!* @ http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
Unmoderated public usenet newsgroup = alt.ucp
*DO* THE UN!VERSAL CONSC!OUS PRACT!CE!
*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO P'R'E'SENT!
UCP !S THE *CRUX* OF RAT!ONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT !S THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSC!OUSNESS!
alt.ucp = THE UN!VERS!TY OF CONSC!OUSNESS!
YOU CAN RA!SE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SP!R!TUAL EVELUTION!
USE THE FREE V!RTUAL W!TNESS ONL!NE NOW!
ONE S!ZE F!TS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
!NQU!RE W!TH!N, ABOUT BECOMING YOURS'ELF!
P!NNACLE PATHS P!TCH PERFECT PER!METERS!
THE PR!ZE PATH !S A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL N-L!GHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODH!SATTVAS
S!NCE THE SECOND M!LLENN!UM
ONE BODH!SATTVA AT A T!ME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
alt.ucp posting history online at google.com . . .
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugroup=alt.ucp&lr=&num=100&hl=en
$*ELF FUN*D THE GREAT GAME: LET'S ALL GO SANE RIGHT NOW!
$END $ TO KP@net-prophet.net VIA paypal.com . . . and DO UCP!
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
Re: session 27/01/06
PRIOR POST PROFILE:
DATE: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:35:07 -0800
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: session 27/01/06
POSTER: tobire
REPLY TO: alt.ucp
NEW DISTRIBUTION:
BLOG: blogicalthought.blogspot.com
NEWSGROUPS: alt.ucp,alt.consciousness,alt.meditation,alt.self-improve,alt.spiritual.enhancement,alt.religion.scientology,alt.clearing.technology
==========================================================================
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:35:07 -0800,
tobire wrote:
> I had an additional realsation about the chart of scales, it's not a
> cylinder, it's an inverted cone, or a series of concentric circles.
And probably many other relationships too!
> Infinity, allness of all, at the top, nothingness, a point at the bottom.
Makes sense!
> Also the havingness scale should be on the far right of the chart.
> Thus forward progress takes the path of a spiral, Be, Do, Have -
I don't agree with your
classification of the columns.
The be-do-have aspects are
all aspects of all the columns.
The columns are just different
looks at the very same things.
If you have one, you have all!
It's just the aspect in focus.
>each ucp session deals with a piece of your beingness which needs to be
> resolved, once done you have to go into action to make this stable,
> then you attain a new piece of havingness which leads you around to a
> new "BE".
Yes.
You are both cause and effect.
Each is both cause and effect
of the other. When you have
different perceptions, you
have different responses.
> Hammering away at BE,BE, BE will just drive you crazy.
OK!
If that's where you are now,
WHERE MIGHT YOU BE?
What is your attention on?
Better look at that!
> Frank, the poor bastard, after more than 800 hours of UCP,
CRANKED HIMSELF INTO ETERNITY!
I plan to do so too soon!
I want to see for myself what
life is like in the promised land!
>is back down at being Nothing.
>This is what he manifests now.
That's not what I see!
Whose reflections are
you describing now?
> This is a very good lesson for everybody doing this, what not to do.
????
For everyone lecturing about
what they have never done,
This is a very good lesson for
everybody doing this, what not to do.
You Identify your Think
with the Rest of Everything.
There's a lot more than that!
THANKS FOR WRITING!
O
--- )
KONCHOK PENDAY
KP@net-prophet.net = email
http://net-prophet.net/ = website
alt.ucp = the ucp usenet newsgroup
blogicalthought.blogspot.com = blog
INTEGRATOR: Universal Conscious Plot:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
N-L!GHTENMENT! . . . R!GHT! . . . *NOW!*
*TOTALLY FREE!* @ http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
Unmoderated public usenet newsgroup = alt.ucp
*DO* THE UN!VERSAL CONSC!OUS PRACT!CE!
*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO P'R'E'SENT!
UCP !S THE *CRUX* OF RAT!ONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT !S THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSC!OUSNESS!
alt.ucp = THE UN!VERS!TY OF CONSC!OUSNESS!
YOU CAN RA!SE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SP!R!TUAL EVELUTION!
USE THE FREE V!RTUAL W!TNESS ONL!NE NOW!
ONE S!ZE F!TS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
!NQU!RE W!TH!N, ABOUT BECOMING YOURS'ELF!
P!NNACLE PATHS P!TCH PERFECT PER!METERS!
THE PR!ZE PATH !S A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL N-L!GHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODH!SATTVAS
S!NCE THE SECOND M!LLENN!UM
ONE BODH!SATTVA AT A T!ME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
alt.ucp posting history online at google.com . . .
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugroup=alt.ucp&lr=&num=100&hl=en
$*ELF FUN*D THE GREAT GAME: LET'S ALL GO SANE RIGHT NOW!
$END $ TO KP@net-prophet.net VIA paypal.com . . . and DO UCP!
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
DATE: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:35:07 -0800
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: session 27/01/06
POSTER: tobire
REPLY TO: alt.ucp
NEW DISTRIBUTION:
BLOG: blogicalthought.blogspot.com
NEWSGROUPS: alt.ucp,alt.consciousness,alt.meditation,alt.self-improve,alt.spiritual.enhancement,alt.religion.scientology,alt.clearing.technology
==========================================================================
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:35:07 -0800,
tobire
> I had an additional realsation about the chart of scales, it's not a
> cylinder, it's an inverted cone, or a series of concentric circles.
And probably many other relationships too!
> Infinity, allness of all, at the top, nothingness, a point at the bottom.
Makes sense!
> Also the havingness scale should be on the far right of the chart.
> Thus forward progress takes the path of a spiral, Be, Do, Have -
I don't agree with your
classification of the columns.
The be-do-have aspects are
all aspects of all the columns.
The columns are just different
looks at the very same things.
If you have one, you have all!
It's just the aspect in focus.
>each ucp session deals with a piece of your beingness which needs to be
> resolved, once done you have to go into action to make this stable,
> then you attain a new piece of havingness which leads you around to a
> new "BE".
Yes.
You are both cause and effect.
Each is both cause and effect
of the other. When you have
different perceptions, you
have different responses.
> Hammering away at BE,BE, BE will just drive you crazy.
OK!
If that's where you are now,
WHERE MIGHT YOU BE?
What is your attention on?
Better look at that!
> Frank, the poor bastard, after more than 800 hours of UCP,
CRANKED HIMSELF INTO ETERNITY!
I plan to do so too soon!
I want to see for myself what
life is like in the promised land!
>is back down at being Nothing.
>This is what he manifests now.
That's not what I see!
Whose reflections are
you describing now?
> This is a very good lesson for everybody doing this, what not to do.
????
For everyone lecturing about
what they have never done,
This is a very good lesson for
everybody doing this, what not to do.
You Identify your Think
with the Rest of Everything.
There's a lot more than that!
THANKS FOR WRITING!
O
--- )
KONCHOK PENDAY
KP@net-prophet.net = email
http://net-prophet.net/ = website
alt.ucp = the ucp usenet newsgroup
blogicalthought.blogspot.com = blog
INTEGRATOR: Universal Conscious Plot:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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KP2006JAN27
12:00 NOON
NOW:
trying to see what is important.
keeps changing what I should
put my attention on now.
greatly regulated by imminent
catastrophes, which keep
changing. physical, financial,
health, political etc. and by
past catastrophes, the
wreckage of which I
am living in now.
I'm always putting out the
latest biggest fire, and
that keeps changing
I keep thinking, when things
calm down a little bit, I will
have more time to do ucp.
I guess I'm waiting for
less pressure to get
back to work. ooops!
all my predictions are calling
for more and more pressure
until the cooker hexplodes.
well, I have had more free time
lately. In the summer I was madly
busy outside, but I'm inside with
heavy rain lately. I've been spending
a LOT of time on ucp, which has been
wonderful for one aspect of me, and
deadly in another: I have the time
because I'm vastly unemployed,
which is really bad for phones.
much like 1984!
when one phone had been discnnected
already and I was semi-staving to keep
the rent paid so far . . . my physical
circumstances were disastrous and
failing further . . . and I had as little
attention as possible on it . . . don't
want to think about . . . like now
. . . and I was SO HIGH in some ways.
I was telepathically linked to people
I *LOVED*, who sometimes called me
on the phone too, and all my attention
was on someone else, far away, who
I never actually met in the physical,
so similar to now. the people who
know what I am talking about [the
UCPeons] are mostly far away.
The few people I genuinely love
hanging out with are scattered
all over the globe. The people
I depend on are slow suicides.
Our dialog is rigidly limited.
Can't git no satisfaction!
I'm still in that place!
I'd like to be part of
larger human groups:
family and tribe. I tried
joining existing tribes,
but they are full of
truly whacko people,
NOT looking for UCP!
My solution has been to
teach ucp to a lot of people,
and some of them will be
sane and socially resonsant.
I haven't done very well at
that so far. All the ucpeons
together wouldn't make a tribe,
most of them aren't interested,
and they are scattered all over.
Living in limbo is the best I've
managed since 1993, when I
moved from a four bedroom
penthouse apartment to my
homebuilt pickup truck camper.
Now I'm in a former school bus.
The people that thrill me are
mostly far away, or lost to me.
In 1984 it was bluejean, david,
joseph, tina, brie, etc. Now it's
the UCPeons. I get some comm
with JUICE to it! Something real
about someone who is ALIVE to
the fact they are dying, or worse.
That's about as good as it gets for me.
Most of my life I've just barely been
hanging on, with whacko's suiciding
all around me, and NO RESONANCE!
My main personal resonance is my two
wonderful bitches: Xena and Aggie.
That's my domestic love triangle.
I'd like to include more humans!
We've raised 25 puppies so far!
They ALL turned out GREAT!
I'd love to try some humans!
KP2006JAN27
Our family hexpanded to include
the mad doctor for a few months,
but she's too whacko for ANYONE!
That's why she's always moving on:
a catastrophic waste of superhuman
intelligence guided by suicidal and
psychopathic unknowable confusion.
So must I abandon my quest for family
bliss, children, and belonging to a
group which will survive me?
I don't have much to work
with in that area right now.
Must I look only within
for my own satisfaction?
I think I should look everywhere,
spinternal and hexternal.
I do notice i am calmer now
under an equivalent "exteral
threat" than I was then. Maybe
I am just Numb to the Pain now.
I'm worried that not being panicked
will allow me to do nothing as the
phone is disconnected, etc. On
the other hand, if I am calm maybe
I can find an elegant solution.
I haven't so far . . .
but I'm still looking.
I'm still back at not being able to
connect my physiological/biological
life with my mental-spiritual life at all.
What I'm uniquely gifted at,
I do for a few, mostly free.
But my life requires me to
spend my time on ronsense.
I've been trying to get the
disconnected aspects of my
life together since the 70's.
I have had brief periods
of success! All too brief!
2:33
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KP2006JAN27
12:00 NOON
NOW:
trying to see what is important.
keeps changing what I should
put my attention on now.
greatly regulated by imminent
catastrophes, which keep
changing. physical, financial,
health, political etc. and by
past catastrophes, the
wreckage of which I
am living in now.
I'm always putting out the
latest biggest fire, and
that keeps changing
I keep thinking, when things
calm down a little bit, I will
have more time to do ucp.
I guess I'm waiting for
less pressure to get
back to work. ooops!
all my predictions are calling
for more and more pressure
until the cooker hexplodes.
well, I have had more free time
lately. In the summer I was madly
busy outside, but I'm inside with
heavy rain lately. I've been spending
a LOT of time on ucp, which has been
wonderful for one aspect of me, and
deadly in another: I have the time
because I'm vastly unemployed,
which is really bad for phones.
much like 1984!
when one phone had been discnnected
already and I was semi-staving to keep
the rent paid so far . . . my physical
circumstances were disastrous and
failing further . . . and I had as little
attention as possible on it . . . don't
want to think about . . . like now
. . . and I was SO HIGH in some ways.
I was telepathically linked to people
I *LOVED*, who sometimes called me
on the phone too, and all my attention
was on someone else, far away, who
I never actually met in the physical,
so similar to now. the people who
know what I am talking about [the
UCPeons] are mostly far away.
The few people I genuinely love
hanging out with are scattered
all over the globe. The people
I depend on are slow suicides.
Our dialog is rigidly limited.
Can't git no satisfaction!
I'm still in that place!
I'd like to be part of
larger human groups:
family and tribe. I tried
joining existing tribes,
but they are full of
truly whacko people,
NOT looking for UCP!
My solution has been to
teach ucp to a lot of people,
and some of them will be
sane and socially resonsant.
I haven't done very well at
that so far. All the ucpeons
together wouldn't make a tribe,
most of them aren't interested,
and they are scattered all over.
Living in limbo is the best I've
managed since 1993, when I
moved from a four bedroom
penthouse apartment to my
homebuilt pickup truck camper.
Now I'm in a former school bus.
The people that thrill me are
mostly far away, or lost to me.
In 1984 it was bluejean, david,
joseph, tina, brie, etc. Now it's
the UCPeons. I get some comm
with JUICE to it! Something real
about someone who is ALIVE to
the fact they are dying, or worse.
That's about as good as it gets for me.
Most of my life I've just barely been
hanging on, with whacko's suiciding
all around me, and NO RESONANCE!
My main personal resonance is my two
wonderful bitches: Xena and Aggie.
That's my domestic love triangle.
I'd like to include more humans!
We've raised 25 puppies so far!
They ALL turned out GREAT!
I'd love to try some humans!
KP2006JAN27
Our family hexpanded to include
the mad doctor for a few months,
but she's too whacko for ANYONE!
That's why she's always moving on:
a catastrophic waste of superhuman
intelligence guided by suicidal and
psychopathic unknowable confusion.
So must I abandon my quest for family
bliss, children, and belonging to a
group which will survive me?
I don't have much to work
with in that area right now.
Must I look only within
for my own satisfaction?
I think I should look everywhere,
spinternal and hexternal.
I do notice i am calmer now
under an equivalent "exteral
threat" than I was then. Maybe
I am just Numb to the Pain now.
I'm worried that not being panicked
will allow me to do nothing as the
phone is disconnected, etc. On
the other hand, if I am calm maybe
I can find an elegant solution.
I haven't so far . . .
but I'm still looking.
I'm still back at not being able to
connect my physiological/biological
life with my mental-spiritual life at all.
What I'm uniquely gifted at,
I do for a few, mostly free.
But my life requires me to
spend my time on ronsense.
I've been trying to get the
disconnected aspects of my
life together since the 70's.
I have had brief periods
of success! All too brief!
2:33
O
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!NQU!RE W!TH!N, ABOUT BECOMING YOURS'ELF!
P!NNACLE PATHS P!TCH PERFECT PER!METERS!
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ENHANCING GLOBAL N-L!GHTENMENT
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S!NCE THE SECOND M!LLENN!UM
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Re: session 27/01/06
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:16:08 -0800
Subject: Re: session 27/01/06
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Re: session 27/01/06
27/01/06
8.39pm
Now- I am feeling apathetic and mostly quite lazy.
I have got myself a
juicer and started using that. I wanted to go onto a totallya raw food
diet but I am too lazy now to prepare any meals other than simple
juices. Hey the juicer does the chewing for me! I have been designing a
layout of my microtonal scales for a honeycomb keyboard that is being
made for me. The maker tells me that it will posted (shipped) out next
week. There are certain things that a greater understanding of
mathematics would help me with. I have never been good with numbers
really. I wanted to sneak into a sold out outdoor concert yesterday but
could not find anyone to go with. One person had promised to go but
piked out at the last minute which I already knew was going to happen.
OK! Apathy is hexpected!
Franks statements re where he is at havemade me question UCP and doubt it's efficacy.
OK!
I had the opposite reaction!
FRANK *PROVED* UCP WORKS! FAR
BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE SO FAR!
FRANK PROVED UCP WILL TAKE
YOU SOMEWHERE ABOVE TONE 22
where the here and now becomes
just another ETERNAL hexample:
as past and future are irrelevant.
FRANK SHOWED UCP WILL COMPLETE!
IT'S NOT AN ENDLESS CYCLE!
He also went exterior doing ucp!
I wasn't predicting that as a result
of UCP, but I won't complain too
much if it happens to me too!
It has helped me thus far That much is unquestionable
but still when someone who has got so far with somethingabandons it makes me question it too.
========================
FRANK *COMPLETED* UCP!
========================
It GOT him to where
he doesn't need it!
FANTASTIC!
How might it be - I might have the energy and desire to do hard
things and not always take the easiest option.
OK!
Or go where you really want to be, and
take the easiest route that goes there.
CTTN - Now I just do whatever is easiest and rarely put myself out.
OK! Why should you?
Is there anything worth
hexerting yourself for?
In the FS I am able to keep my house tidy and my affairs organised. Now
I am able to wash the juicer or do something asked of me or pay a bill
but as for going to the laundrymat or tidying the house I always put
that stuff off.
Everything vital got done!
PASt - I remember living in a share house and I was really neat. It
must have been because I was worried about what others would have
thought had I left mess everywhere.
Your Compulsive Activity has relaxed, and
you are not yet enthusiasticly playing a new
game. You are in the zero zone doldrums.
CTTN - Now I have no one to look good for or impress and I never
invite people over so I do not care what the place looks like. In the
past compulsively did things to please others such as cleaning etc.
Now I have my own place and I am just responsible for my own mess or
state of affairs.
New ability to do nothing!
How might it be - I might live in a share house with much less
belongings.
CTTN - Now I am not worried about what other people think. Anybody
who I think might judge me harshly about the state of my house I do not
let them in. In the FS I am able to travel easily because I do not have
many belongings. Now I have quite a few big things that would make it
harder for me to travel overseas or even in Australia. In the FS I have
other people around me who help keep a living space clean. Now I am the
only person who can do it and it seems to much for me.
How has it been? - I remember first doing an altered form of UCP with
my old flatmate and how much I enjoyed doing it. And how things came up
that seemed much more hidden than any of the sessions I have done solo.
I agree is seems easier with another witness.
And it has beneficial effect on relationship.
It's easier to focus your attention to talk to
another person. I guess I'm not important
enough to merit my own attention and help?
CTTN - Now I have no one to do UCP with and yet I wish I did.
I wish I had people to do ucp, music, food, sex etc. with!
But I'm enjoying my party on my own as best I can.
Can't wait for the late.
In the
PS I was totally satisfied as I had someone who was interested in me
listening to me. I forgot totally about the process and just
concentrated on my thoughts.
I think their attention helps you focus,
if they're not talking or arguing with you.
Now when I do it on paper I sometimes
correct typos etc. I rewrite sentences. It just takes longer than just
talking.
Yes.
On the other hand I find the written record
very useful to refer to to see where I was.
And scheduling a witness can
mess up your opportunities.
When I do it with the virtual witness I seem to get bored at
around the 40 minute mark and find it very difficult to persevere.
Ever felt like that before?
Were classes about that
long when you were a kid?
Even my written sessions have become hard recently.
EFFORT
Look AT the effort.
That's what blew
me through zero.
Normally I was easily
able to go for about 1.5 hours but now I get bored very quickly and
start thinking about what else I could be doing.
ELSE
SUBSTITUTE
The thought of doing UCP seems really dreary at the moment
Hexcellent!
Your own EFFORT is
staring you in the face.
When UCP itself
becomes an EFFORT,
IT'S REALLY BITING! on
LIABILITY/PRETENSE.
When did you feel
like that before?
and I have put off doing sessions until now.
OK! But NOW you got back in the game!
How are you feeling ? - Now I am looking at the UCP chart to get an
idea of where I might be. Usekess abd apathy seem very apt. But I am
looking at doubt and secrecy too. I really do not know. My attention is
on where I am and whether I am actually making any progress with this.
Since you really don't know,
. . . it sounds like DOUBT!
Sounds like you had a big win,
got up to Apathy, and are now
drifting back down to doubt.
OK!
EFLTB ? - Just after I briefly went way above death I was conscious
that I prematurely decided I was above death. I was looking at the
chart and noticing that some below death pretence identity stuff was
still apparent.
OK!
CTTN - Now I feel like I am not making any progress and according to
the chart. Then I realised that I was not permanently above death and
still had a lot of work to do. Now I do not know what to look at to
improve. Maybe I should look at the pretence of being somewhere on a
chart for prestige or whatever.
Hexcellent!
And at your DOUBT
about where you are!
When the session
looks like your life
you are in the
perfect position
to make progress!
How might I be - Happy to continue looking at my life with UCP even
if I do not progress fast. (like I should if I was in my perfection
pretence.)
CTTN - Now I am frequently stand offish and superior in my bearing
towards others. I recognise it and I know I am doing it but I cannot
seem to let it go entirely yet.
OK. That's a compulsive activity/beingness = valence.
It FEELS LIKE "you". You are in DOUBT about whether
"it's you!" or not. Hexamine your doubt. Earlier Doubt?
Been - I am reminded of doing offsider work with my boss and him
talking about his worldly exploits and things that would be quite
embarrassing to me if I had done them and admitted so to someone else.
Instead I have my arms crossed and listen to what he says like some
kind of detached AUDITOR !
I'M NOT LIKE HIM!
I'M HIS OPPOSITE!
EFLTB ? Yeah when I was a hot shot auditor I was too sane (clear) to
make mistakes or be anything other than perfect. I did not reveal my
flaws because they were inconsistent with being OT. I remember being a
real arrogant wanker desperately trying to maintain the OT pretence.
Shit I still have it!
Hexcellent!
Scientology agressively implants their
valences in you to control your behavior.
Seeing what you are doing
is the first step to changing
your mind, then behavior.
CTTN - Now I view myself as perfect (a new form of OT) and I do not
share any stories of my failings or humiliating things that have
happened to me. If I cannot do something right first time I pretend I
can do it and just do not. For this pathetic sham I have less
experience than I should. I have not really done much.
YOU DISCOVERED THAT!
NEW UNDERSTANDING
If something
looked like I could possibly fail in it I did not do it and did only
those things that I knew I could do. Or else I would compulsively
practice things solo and in private until I had the required level of
perfection for me. Rarely did anything reach that stage.
When you don't know what to say,
you concentrate on how to say it.
When you are burning
with an urgent message
it plays at every chance!
Then I knew I
had failings but the cult viewed me a certain way which I tried to
remain consistent with. People admired me for being OT xyz. Class
whatever auditor. Only I knew that I was not perfect but I tried not
to dwell on that and mostly took the perks of having high status.
What a burden playing that role placed on you!
You had to lie constantly about your very sElf!
Now I
have no status and my superior pretence is laughable around people with
way more experience and ability than me.
OK!
Free from THAT pretense, at least!
How might it be- I might allow myself to fail in public and not let it
worry me. I might allow myself the chance to be bad, and to improve.
Or your attention might be so focused on
reaching the audience with your message
you don't have any attention on failure and
you are a *NATURAL STAR* huge success!
CTTN - Now I am waiting for more perfect conditions to do things that
might never come about.
Deciding NOW IS the time
might just make it perfect?
In the FS I make the best of my time regardless
of the perfections or imperfections. In the FS I try things and help
myself get better by practicing. With others.
Hexcellent!
EOS
9.40pm
Justin
THANKS FOR PLAYING!
THANKS FOR WRITING!
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*DO* THE UN!VERSAL CONSC!OUS PRACT!CE!
*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO P'R'E'SENT!
UCP !S THE *CRUX* OF RAT!ONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT !S THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSC!OUSNESS!
alt.ucp = THE UN!VERS!TY OF CONSC!OUSNESS!
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Subject: Re: session 27/01/06
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Re: session 27/01/06
27/01/06
8.39pm
Now- I am feeling apathetic and mostly quite lazy.
I have got myself a
juicer and started using that. I wanted to go onto a totallya raw food
diet but I am too lazy now to prepare any meals other than simple
juices. Hey the juicer does the chewing for me! I have been designing a
layout of my microtonal scales for a honeycomb keyboard that is being
made for me. The maker tells me that it will posted (shipped) out next
week. There are certain things that a greater understanding of
mathematics would help me with. I have never been good with numbers
really. I wanted to sneak into a sold out outdoor concert yesterday but
could not find anyone to go with. One person had promised to go but
piked out at the last minute which I already knew was going to happen.
OK! Apathy is hexpected!
Franks statements re where he is at havemade me question UCP and doubt it's efficacy.
OK!
I had the opposite reaction!
FRANK *PROVED* UCP WORKS! FAR
BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE SO FAR!
FRANK PROVED UCP WILL TAKE
YOU SOMEWHERE ABOVE TONE 22
where the here and now becomes
just another ETERNAL hexample:
as past and future are irrelevant.
FRANK SHOWED UCP WILL COMPLETE!
IT'S NOT AN ENDLESS CYCLE!
He also went exterior doing ucp!
I wasn't predicting that as a result
of UCP, but I won't complain too
much if it happens to me too!
It has helped me thus far That much is unquestionable
but still when someone who has got so far with somethingabandons it makes me question it too.
========================
FRANK *COMPLETED* UCP!
========================
It GOT him to where
he doesn't need it!
FANTASTIC!
How might it be - I might have the energy and desire to do hard
things and not always take the easiest option.
OK!
Or go where you really want to be, and
take the easiest route that goes there.
CTTN - Now I just do whatever is easiest and rarely put myself out.
OK! Why should you?
Is there anything worth
hexerting yourself for?
In the FS I am able to keep my house tidy and my affairs organised. Now
I am able to wash the juicer or do something asked of me or pay a bill
but as for going to the laundrymat or tidying the house I always put
that stuff off.
Everything vital got done!
PASt - I remember living in a share house and I was really neat. It
must have been because I was worried about what others would have
thought had I left mess everywhere.
Your Compulsive Activity has relaxed, and
you are not yet enthusiasticly playing a new
game. You are in the zero zone doldrums.
CTTN - Now I have no one to look good for or impress and I never
invite people over so I do not care what the place looks like. In the
past compulsively did things to please others such as cleaning etc.
Now I have my own place and I am just responsible for my own mess or
state of affairs.
New ability to do nothing!
How might it be - I might live in a share house with much less
belongings.
CTTN - Now I am not worried about what other people think. Anybody
who I think might judge me harshly about the state of my house I do not
let them in. In the FS I am able to travel easily because I do not have
many belongings. Now I have quite a few big things that would make it
harder for me to travel overseas or even in Australia. In the FS I have
other people around me who help keep a living space clean. Now I am the
only person who can do it and it seems to much for me.
How has it been? - I remember first doing an altered form of UCP with
my old flatmate and how much I enjoyed doing it. And how things came up
that seemed much more hidden than any of the sessions I have done solo.
I agree is seems easier with another witness.
And it has beneficial effect on relationship.
It's easier to focus your attention to talk to
another person. I guess I'm not important
enough to merit my own attention and help?
CTTN - Now I have no one to do UCP with and yet I wish I did.
I wish I had people to do ucp, music, food, sex etc. with!
But I'm enjoying my party on my own as best I can.
Can't wait for the late.
In the
PS I was totally satisfied as I had someone who was interested in me
listening to me. I forgot totally about the process and just
concentrated on my thoughts.
I think their attention helps you focus,
if they're not talking or arguing with you.
Now when I do it on paper I sometimes
correct typos etc. I rewrite sentences. It just takes longer than just
talking.
Yes.
On the other hand I find the written record
very useful to refer to to see where I was.
And scheduling a witness can
mess up your opportunities.
When I do it with the virtual witness I seem to get bored at
around the 40 minute mark and find it very difficult to persevere.
Ever felt like that before?
Were classes about that
long when you were a kid?
Even my written sessions have become hard recently.
EFFORT
Look AT the effort.
That's what blew
me through zero.
Normally I was easily
able to go for about 1.5 hours but now I get bored very quickly and
start thinking about what else I could be doing.
ELSE
SUBSTITUTE
The thought of doing UCP seems really dreary at the moment
Hexcellent!
Your own EFFORT is
staring you in the face.
When UCP itself
becomes an EFFORT,
IT'S REALLY BITING! on
LIABILITY/PRETENSE.
When did you feel
like that before?
and I have put off doing sessions until now.
OK! But NOW you got back in the game!
How are you feeling ? - Now I am looking at the UCP chart to get an
idea of where I might be. Usekess abd apathy seem very apt. But I am
looking at doubt and secrecy too. I really do not know. My attention is
on where I am and whether I am actually making any progress with this.
Since you really don't know,
. . . it sounds like DOUBT!
Sounds like you had a big win,
got up to Apathy, and are now
drifting back down to doubt.
OK!
EFLTB ? - Just after I briefly went way above death I was conscious
that I prematurely decided I was above death. I was looking at the
chart and noticing that some below death pretence identity stuff was
still apparent.
OK!
CTTN - Now I feel like I am not making any progress and according to
the chart. Then I realised that I was not permanently above death and
still had a lot of work to do. Now I do not know what to look at to
improve. Maybe I should look at the pretence of being somewhere on a
chart for prestige or whatever.
Hexcellent!
And at your DOUBT
about where you are!
When the session
looks like your life
you are in the
perfect position
to make progress!
How might I be - Happy to continue looking at my life with UCP even
if I do not progress fast. (like I should if I was in my perfection
pretence.)
CTTN - Now I am frequently stand offish and superior in my bearing
towards others. I recognise it and I know I am doing it but I cannot
seem to let it go entirely yet.
OK. That's a compulsive activity/beingness = valence.
It FEELS LIKE "you". You are in DOUBT about whether
"it's you!" or not. Hexamine your doubt. Earlier Doubt?
Been - I am reminded of doing offsider work with my boss and him
talking about his worldly exploits and things that would be quite
embarrassing to me if I had done them and admitted so to someone else.
Instead I have my arms crossed and listen to what he says like some
kind of detached AUDITOR !
I'M NOT LIKE HIM!
I'M HIS OPPOSITE!
EFLTB ? Yeah when I was a hot shot auditor I was too sane (clear) to
make mistakes or be anything other than perfect. I did not reveal my
flaws because they were inconsistent with being OT. I remember being a
real arrogant wanker desperately trying to maintain the OT pretence.
Shit I still have it!
Hexcellent!
Scientology agressively implants their
valences in you to control your behavior.
Seeing what you are doing
is the first step to changing
your mind, then behavior.
CTTN - Now I view myself as perfect (a new form of OT) and I do not
share any stories of my failings or humiliating things that have
happened to me. If I cannot do something right first time I pretend I
can do it and just do not. For this pathetic sham I have less
experience than I should. I have not really done much.
YOU DISCOVERED THAT!
NEW UNDERSTANDING
If something
looked like I could possibly fail in it I did not do it and did only
those things that I knew I could do. Or else I would compulsively
practice things solo and in private until I had the required level of
perfection for me. Rarely did anything reach that stage.
When you don't know what to say,
you concentrate on how to say it.
When you are burning
with an urgent message
it plays at every chance!
Then I knew I
had failings but the cult viewed me a certain way which I tried to
remain consistent with. People admired me for being OT xyz. Class
whatever auditor. Only I knew that I was not perfect but I tried not
to dwell on that and mostly took the perks of having high status.
What a burden playing that role placed on you!
You had to lie constantly about your very sElf!
Now I
have no status and my superior pretence is laughable around people with
way more experience and ability than me.
OK!
Free from THAT pretense, at least!
How might it be- I might allow myself to fail in public and not let it
worry me. I might allow myself the chance to be bad, and to improve.
Or your attention might be so focused on
reaching the audience with your message
you don't have any attention on failure and
you are a *NATURAL STAR* huge success!
CTTN - Now I am waiting for more perfect conditions to do things that
might never come about.
Deciding NOW IS the time
might just make it perfect?
In the FS I make the best of my time regardless
of the perfections or imperfections. In the FS I try things and help
myself get better by practicing. With others.
Hexcellent!
EOS
9.40pm
Justin
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THANKS FOR WRITING!
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Re: Control - that's what I want!
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DATE: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:48:11 -0800
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THREAD: Re: Control - that's what I want!
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:48:11 -0800,
Richard wrote:
Re: Control - that's what I want!
> Hey KP,
Hi!
>> Is that the same as
>> "only a little different"
>> or "a little different"?
> Actually a fair bit different today - I felt pretty good.
Hexcellent!
> Funny I am working better - more able to focus - better feeling.
Hexcellent!
> Could just be normal life up and down but did feel refreshingly better
> today.
Hexcellent!
Sounds suspiciously like gains to me. :-)
> Got pissed with my girlfriend for her running a raquet because I
> wanted to go out. She created drama - I got hooked in it and ended up
> blaming her for puttin me in too bad a mood to go now. Want to punish
> her!
She created drama.
You created drama.
> Lucky it was on MSN so converasation dropped and I headed home on
> tube. Did UCP on it on way home. Could see my two scripts quite
> clearly - end of tube journey was not actively in them - felt pretty
> good.
Hexcellent!
You got tired of
your own drama.
You rewrote
your part!
NEW ABILITY TO APPLY UCP!
> Also did UCP for hour last night - initally hard again but got easier.
Hexcellent!
> On tube today was the easiest I have done it.
Hexcellent!
> Actually felt quite natural as opposed to a total effort.
UCP *IS* NATURAL!
But so it forgetting and
doing something else, so
*KNOWN* structure helps.
> Ummm - interesting stuf - let the experiment contnue.
YESSENCE!
> Sorry I am bit lazy at the moment to give extensive reports on my
> sessions - I will, maybe, soon enough.
Much more important to
DO UCP than write reports!
Both are nice! :-)
>> What did you expect?
>> Beam-me-up-stargate?
>> To a pyramid penthouse?v
> LOL - not at all. To be honest I expect very little so could be
> pleasantly surprised.
OK!
> I done enough things with great expectations withminimal results to be
> somewhat jaded and cynical by now.
Way Cool!
>> A LITTLE DIFFERENT IS
>> THE VERY BEST YOU CAN
>> REALISTICALLY HEXPECT!
>
> Ok.
>
>>
>> WELCOME TO REALITY!
>>
>> All the things that are just the same,
>> you probably haven't looked at very
>> close yet. The things that are a bit
>> different AT ALL are a BIG *WIN.*
>>
>> YOU changed your universe.
>> You are NOT total effect.
>> You have some CAUSE!
>
> Really - cool! lets see.
>
>>
>> You exist, AND you are moving!
>> And even in the right direction!
>
> Good to know that.
>
>>
>>> Had some insights
>>
>> YESSENCE!
>>
>> I see that as *BIG* change.
>
> Cool - you give me encouragement. Thank you.
You give me encouragement! Thank you.
>> BEHAVIOR FOLLOWS PERCEPTION.
>>
>> When you *SEE* things differently
>> . . . you REACT to them differently!
> Really - if I see my script does it antomatically change the script.
Not necessarily, but it gives you
a chance to question it and do a
rewrite . . . which becomes likely.
Your script changes as
your perceptions change.
> I've seen what an arsehole I can be for years and what do you know,
> I'm still an arsehole....... sometimes.
OK!
That's not likely to instantly cease,
but I hexpect it to peel off one
layer at a time as you learn
why you do what you do.
>>> but behaviour still pretty much the same.
>>
>> After you walk a few feet,
>> you are still pretty much
>> the same place, if you
>> don't look carefully
> Look carefully - yes tonight UCP felt like it allowed me to look more
> carefully at my running scripts without the attachment to them. Cool!
NEW ABILITY TO APPLY UCP.
>> and are willing to think in generalities
>> instead of looking at the particlular now.
>>
>> That your behavior is slightly modified
>> should be the subject of Celebration!
>
> Yahoo! a slight motification is cause for celebration. I like that.
You still have most of the road ahead of you.
But the most important step of the journey
is already behind you! YOUR FIRST STEP!
NOW your are already off and running!
Six billion are sleeping in the stands.
YOU ARE NOW IN THE HUMAN RACE!
. . . TO BECOME FULLY SENTIENT!
>> If you can change yourself
>> a teeny weeny bit for the
>> better YOU ARE A STAR!
> Someone once said to me - it doesn't matter what you are transcending
> big or small as long as you are transending that's the game.
Start where you are!
>> How many
>> can equal
>> that feat?
>>
>> If you can change a little,
>> you can change a lot.
> I like the lot bit better than the little.
OK! DO MORE!
>> It's a long journey.
>> You just started.
> Yep! I started ages ago but I've been skippingaround the same level for
> a long time now.
OK. You taxi'd back and forth on the runway.
Motor sounds good; controls are responsive.
Time to take off and fly, to a NEW destination!
>> YOU MOVED!
>> WAY COOL!
>>
>> You're not dead yet!
>> That separates you
>> from the zombies!
>>
>> One tiny motion
>> completely shifts
>> you into an entirely
>> new class: moving!
>>
>> The quick
>> rise from
>> the dead!
>>
>> BRAVO!
>>
>>>> I think you were stuck in some valence
>>>> when you were posting a couple years ago,
>>
>>> Can you explain valance a bit. I get the impression though and yes I
>>> was stuck in something, but then my life is a series of being stuck in
>>> some valances.
>>
>> valence = identity = role = script:
>> cowboy, indian, older brother, salesman,
>> my dad, mother, defiant young hothead,
>> a "proper" guru . . . watever you like.
>
> Thanks - that's explains it .
> I keep getting caught in the bloody things -
From 0=Failure=Death on down
they are a constant presence.
> just take over - takes a lot to see and catch them.But I do see them
> more these days - I'm aware atsome point I'm running in a script but
> still difficultto get off it.
OK! SEEING is the first step.
Causing or uncausing follow.
>> Any role you are desperately attached to, or
>> compulsively opposed to . . . for now at least.
>> Most people have a few favorite ones they
>> flop between, in endless cycles of wank.
>>
>>>> I think you got that valence up to zero . . .
>>>> Got that zero, +-20, +-40, resonance going.
>>>>
>>>> Sat oo the cusp of a valence choice looking,
>>>> and FOUND YOURSELF where you are now.
>>>>
>>>> I've seen it before where you see the
>>>> social self, the valence the guy believes
>>>> and projects, get up near zero and then
>>>> he SEES that's NOT HIM, and that his
>>>> ACTUAL location is around -40 or so.
>>>
>>> Yep!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You've gotten to a deeper level of him.
>>>> That's a full circle completion of a small
>>>> game expanding to a much larger game.
>>
>>> Deeper level of the social self?
>>
>> NO!
>>
>> You trashed your social self!
>> You gave up trying to find the
>> perfect social self to pretend to!
>> You defaulted to the grim truth!
>
> :-)
> Not sure I've fully given up the social self yet.
Sure! That's the end result of getting
to zero, out of your pretence liabilities.
But you're enough unstuck from those
to *SEE* WHERE YOU ACTUALLY ARE!
You ALREADY HAVE at least one
realistic viewpoint on yourself.
That's a big asset in
curing your errors!
At least you can
admit they exist!
> I see myself in my
> winning formula trying to impress often - laughable really.
Hexcellent!
What are you PRETENDING to be?
That usually gets to the quick of it.
> But I do see it more as time goes by.
And you KEEP LOOKING!
Hexcellent!
>> A huge leap ahead! . . .
>> To see where you are!
>>
>>>>>> LOOK *AT* THE HUMP!
>>>>>> *THAT'S* YOUR START!
>>
>>> Yeah - I did - I did an hour last night.
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>>> I'll try to post soon if I can in summary.
>>
>> OK!
>>
>>> Was good actually - difficult - the resistance to
>>> moving and starting is huge to the point of pain -
>>
>> OK! That's what make's it a hump!
>
> Yeah - good word for it.
>
>>
>>> but I looked and pushed through and did get some insights.
>>
>> NEW UNDERSTANDING!
>>
>> As your viewpoint shifts . . .
>> your behavior follows naturally.
> This part I really have to see.
Of course . . .
Keep looking.
>> You never have to
>> force yourself to do
>> something that is
>> obvious and seems
>> quite natural, NOW.
>>
>>>>> Absolutely. As you said the psychedelics are better. I was not
>>>>> referring to them. I take GHB - it's has a more alchohol type effect
>>>>> but without the toxic effects on the body.
>>
>>>> OK! I don't know that one.
>>>
>>> http://www.ceri.com/ghbpage.shtml - a fairly positive view on it.
>>> Problem is I do find myself with a bit of a dependence on it - I use
>>> to relax to go to sleep, and other places in place of drink, but,
>>> although not physically addictive it is phychologically.
>> Thanks! Now they are making things
>> illegal before I even hear of them!
> Hehe - yes - a drug that's good for you. Ban it!
> I think swedan even have a kind of broad ban now - anything that makes
> you feel good (i.e abuse potential) = automatically illegal. :-)
> What would we do without a government to save us from harming
> ourselves huh!
Nothing Productive!
[to the government]
>>>>>> BUT *YOU* MOVED!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You KNOW something
>>>>>> is missing from your
>>>>>> own life equation.
>>
>>> Great! :-)
>>
>>>>>> YOU ARE RISING BY
>>>>>> YOUR OWN EFFORT!
>>
>>> Well - that remains to be seen
>>
>> It does?
> Well yes and no. I'm not moving anywhere near as fast as I would lik
> these last years.
OK!
That's where you are now.
Where might you be?
>> It's blindingly obvious to me,
>> based on your own reports!
> Ummm - but I have reported so little.
????
You reported so *MUCH!*
You read about UCP!
[you forgot to lecture
about it's ills for years!]
YOU DID UCP!
YOU KEPT DOING UCP.
YOU GOT CHANGES AND
NEW PERCEPTIONS!
YOU REPORTED TOO!
===============
THAT'S PERFECT!
===============
WHAT could you
have done better?
> Still nice to hear you see somethingthat is not immediately obvious to
> me.
1] You're doing ucp.
2] You're making gains.
3] You're posting to us.
THAT'S *HUGE!*
Which of those are
not obvious to you?
That's the most
you could do
where you are!
YOU WIN!
KEEP PLAYING!
>> You seem to have some
>> stuck picture that it's "all
>> the same", and THINK you
>> must not be moving at all?
>
> Yep!
OK!
Ever felt like that before?
>> Ever felt like that before?
>> [or however you do feel
>> about all this right now]
>
> I'll look at that one.
OK!
>> I'm thrilled you are moving!
>>
>> You are dismayed that
>> you are not there yet!
>
> Not dismayed - just neutral - though more positive now.
OK!
Another gain.
>> When you walk a few steps,
>> your picture has already
>> changed quite perceptibly.
>>
>> You need to look closely
>> to see where to step next.
>
> Thanks for the clue.
>
>>
>> Watching that change,
>> will enable the next.
>
> OK
>
>>
>> Compare you now to
>> a few sessions ago,
>> and two years ago,
>> when you posted.
>
> Ok
>>
>> I'm much more interested in
>> people who are moving than
>> people at fixed high tone levels.
>
> Oh God yes!
> Nothing more tedious or boring to me than someone thinking they are
> secure and
>
>>
>> A guy who keeps moving will
>> always pass a guy who doe not.
>>
>> Traveling companions know the path.
>> Nomads share something the farmers
>> don't, even if they live at high elevation.
>>
>> One is a photo . . .
>> the other a movie!
>>
>>> but I have some hope.
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>> Much better than that,
>> you have some results!
> Yes I start to see a few now.
Hexcellent!
You have to
look to see!
> At least the usefulnes of it as a tool
> to look at stuff from different anglesand de-hook myself from scripts
> to take a look at them.
Yessence!
You have a new tool AND
you are learning to use it!
You're still a newbie, and
you already did some work,
and got some results.
>> And new viewpoints!
>>
>> YOU KNOW HOW
>> to improve your
>> own viewpoints.
> Ok - not sure about I know how to improve - but I can look.
DOING UCP IMPROVES YOUR VIEWPOINTS!
>> That's the KEY to
>> unlock a new you!
>
> COOOOOL!!!
>
>>
>>>>> I've discovered mostly things are very....
>>>>> soupy inside! and hard to verbalise!
>>>>
>>>> NEW PERCEPTION!
>>
>>> yes - I have been looking at this one more.
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>>>> I say that's a great big deal!
>>>> ANYTHING *YOU DISCOVER*
>>>> IS a big deal. Discovering
>>>> something CONNECTED TO
>>>> your actual life has obvious
>>>> potential for real progress.
>>
>>>> MOVING A LITTLE IS
>>>> A *VERY* BIG DEAL!
>>
>>> That is a great way to look at it.
>>
>> That's what separates
>> winners from losers.
>>
>> KEEP MOVING!
>> KEEP WINNING!
>
> :-)
>
>>
>> If you just climb
>> one step at a time,
>> and keep at it . . .
>> you get to the top!
>>
>> THAT'S THE BIGGEST
>> DEAL THERE IS!
>
> Yes - thanks for the reminder.
>
>>
>>>> Like a steam locomotive,
>>>> getting started is hardest.
>>
>>> YEs - like this in everything for me.
>>
>> OK!
>>
>> But you already got started!
>> You just have to keep at it!
>>
>> YOU ALREADY *WON!*
>> JUST KEEP WINNING!
>>
>>>> Once it moves at all, no
>>>> matter how slowly, it picks
>>>> up more and more speed, as
>>>> long as you shovel the coal.
>>
>>> OR it picks up plateurs and dies -the normal pattern - enthusiasm -
>>> boredom - give up.
>>
>> YES! That's why I'm SO excited about you.
>> You already gave up on UCP, several times!
> Yep! sometimes I'm like this. Attention in and out for a while but
> things with substance stick and hang around even if I keep going in
> and out.
OK!
Your attention keeps sticking
on some things, even in your
swirl of "random" confusion.
A good sign!
Work with it!
>> You've been through that pattern several times.
>> And yet you keep coming back to ucp because
>> it makes sense and it works.
> It makes sense and I like you.
Way Cool!
Me too!
> The works bit I need to find out more.
Hexcellent! *DO!*
>> And you were
>> willing to do the hard work to bypass your
>> social self and confront your wiped out self.
>> You kept coming back to him over and over
>> again, until you KNEW you couldn't deny him.
> No choice - pain is too much in the end.
OK!
> Have to find something that works.
CONGRATULATIONS!
ON YOUR SUCCESSFUL SEARCH!
You beat six billion to the solution.
>> Congratulations!
>>
>> That's the one who needs help!
>> And deserves it for standing up!
>>
>> When you stopped denying him,
>> you finally started to help him!
>>
>> You scraped through all your own crap
>> about where you thought you were . . .
>> until you got down to the real dirt!
>>
>> Congratulations!
>>
>> Now you can plant a garden
>> and grow something good!
> I like that - such a great way of putting things.
Thanks!
I try to put them,
the way they are!
>> YOU KNOW SOMETHING!
>> Even if it's not pleasant!
>>
>> The unpleasant truths are
>> often critically important!
>
>
> Yes
>
>>
>> And when your bewildered sElf
>> decided to get in touch with mine
>> . . . YOUR TIMING WAS *PERFECT!*
>>
>> We seem to be in sync.
>> I'm inclined to think you
>> must be doing something
>> . . . hextremely b/right!
>
> :-)
>
>>
>>> I hope this one is not that way -
>>
>> I think you are past that stage.
>> Now that know where you are,
>> you WILL *SEE* your ACTUAL
>> progress as you move up tone.
>>
>> Those gains don't vanish.
>>
>>> I have intention for it not to be -
>>
>> YESSENCE!
>>
>> That's one critical difference already!
>> That's the BIGGEST critical difference!
>> It's the prime mover for all the others!
>>
>> And you don't think
>> you've made progress?
>>
>> I beg to differ! :-)
>>
>> LOOK FOR YOURSELF
>> . . . AT YOURSELF!
>>
>>> I want to move to next level ofenthusiasm beyond the initial plateur.
>>
>> That's HEXACTLY *WHY* I'm so enthusiastic
>> about your progress already. You've DONE
>> much heavy lifting to SEE WHERE YOU ARE!
>>
>> That's a critical milestone!
>> Now you CAN move fast!
>>
>> You are above hallucination on the work
>> to be done to fix yourself up to the kind
>> of standards that keep getting higher!
>> Fantastic! You *should* be daunted!
>
> Cool!
>
>>
>> You're not still trying
>> to prove to yourself
>> you're perfect already!
>>
>> It's a good indicator to
>> be dubious or cautious!
>>
>>>> One of my teachers was with Leary at Millbrook,
>>>
>>> Cool! Leary was a brave pioneer. I have a lot of respect for him.
>>
>> Yes. I made a point of hearing Tim in LA a few years
>> before he died, to see if he looked damaged from
>> all that acid. He had all of his marbles . . . and a
>> lot he most have won from somebody else too!
> Yes - amazing isn't it. I find it hard to imagine the bravery it took
> for this guy to fly out on the edge - to push the envelope so much and
> he began at 42. Quite an inspiration. And they were doing lots of
> strong acid - my mind boggles.
Yessence!
>>> Seems to be that way - depressing huh! a world of zombies.
>>
>> YES! When I hear someone screaming:
>> "Help! I'm dying!" I geat really hexcited!
>
> :-)
>
>>
>> I GOT A *LIVE* ONE NOW!
>> WHO KNOWS HE'S ALIVE!
>> AND WANTS SOME HELP!
>> I CAN WORK WITH THAT!
> Great!
>> The chart is simple!
>> Start at the left. Look
>> at the 1, 2, 4 divisions.
>> Those are the chart.
>>
>> Everything else is just
>> finer and finer refinements
>> to measure small movements.
>>
>> Get the latest excel chart from the web site,
>> read the notes, print it out, and LOOK at it.
>> LOOK at the chart at the end of your session.
>
> Ok - I will look - I have not been looking - only doing some UCP
OK! Now you have some
hexperience looking at
your own universe . . .
comparing it to the
Universal Perspective
helps you understand
where you are now
and what s next.
> Thanks again KP.
>
> Richard
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DATE: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:48:11 -0800
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THREAD: Re: Control - that's what I want!
POSTER: Richard
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:48:11 -0800,
Richard
Re: Control - that's what I want!
> Hey KP,
Hi!
>> Is that the same as
>> "only a little different"
>> or "a little different"?
> Actually a fair bit different today - I felt pretty good.
Hexcellent!
> Funny I am working better - more able to focus - better feeling.
Hexcellent!
> Could just be normal life up and down but did feel refreshingly better
> today.
Hexcellent!
Sounds suspiciously like gains to me. :-)
> Got pissed with my girlfriend for her running a raquet because I
> wanted to go out. She created drama - I got hooked in it and ended up
> blaming her for puttin me in too bad a mood to go now. Want to punish
> her!
She created drama.
You created drama.
> Lucky it was on MSN so converasation dropped and I headed home on
> tube. Did UCP on it on way home. Could see my two scripts quite
> clearly - end of tube journey was not actively in them - felt pretty
> good.
Hexcellent!
You got tired of
your own drama.
You rewrote
your part!
NEW ABILITY TO APPLY UCP!
> Also did UCP for hour last night - initally hard again but got easier.
Hexcellent!
> On tube today was the easiest I have done it.
Hexcellent!
> Actually felt quite natural as opposed to a total effort.
UCP *IS* NATURAL!
But so it forgetting and
doing something else, so
*KNOWN* structure helps.
> Ummm - interesting stuf - let the experiment contnue.
YESSENCE!
> Sorry I am bit lazy at the moment to give extensive reports on my
> sessions - I will, maybe, soon enough.
Much more important to
DO UCP than write reports!
Both are nice! :-)
>> What did you expect?
>> Beam-me-up-stargate?
>> To a pyramid penthouse?v
> LOL - not at all. To be honest I expect very little so could be
> pleasantly surprised.
OK!
> I done enough things with great expectations withminimal results to be
> somewhat jaded and cynical by now.
Way Cool!
>> A LITTLE DIFFERENT IS
>> THE VERY BEST YOU CAN
>> REALISTICALLY HEXPECT!
>
> Ok.
>
>>
>> WELCOME TO REALITY!
>>
>> All the things that are just the same,
>> you probably haven't looked at very
>> close yet. The things that are a bit
>> different AT ALL are a BIG *WIN.*
>>
>> YOU changed your universe.
>> You are NOT total effect.
>> You have some CAUSE!
>
> Really - cool! lets see.
>
>>
>> You exist, AND you are moving!
>> And even in the right direction!
>
> Good to know that.
>
>>
>>> Had some insights
>>
>> YESSENCE!
>>
>> I see that as *BIG* change.
>
> Cool - you give me encouragement. Thank you.
You give me encouragement! Thank you.
>> BEHAVIOR FOLLOWS PERCEPTION.
>>
>> When you *SEE* things differently
>> . . . you REACT to them differently!
> Really - if I see my script does it antomatically change the script.
Not necessarily, but it gives you
a chance to question it and do a
rewrite . . . which becomes likely.
Your script changes as
your perceptions change.
> I've seen what an arsehole I can be for years and what do you know,
> I'm still an arsehole....... sometimes.
OK!
That's not likely to instantly cease,
but I hexpect it to peel off one
layer at a time as you learn
why you do what you do.
>>> but behaviour still pretty much the same.
>>
>> After you walk a few feet,
>> you are still pretty much
>> the same place, if you
>> don't look carefully
> Look carefully - yes tonight UCP felt like it allowed me to look more
> carefully at my running scripts without the attachment to them. Cool!
NEW ABILITY TO APPLY UCP.
>> and are willing to think in generalities
>> instead of looking at the particlular now.
>>
>> That your behavior is slightly modified
>> should be the subject of Celebration!
>
> Yahoo! a slight motification is cause for celebration. I like that.
You still have most of the road ahead of you.
But the most important step of the journey
is already behind you! YOUR FIRST STEP!
NOW your are already off and running!
Six billion are sleeping in the stands.
YOU ARE NOW IN THE HUMAN RACE!
. . . TO BECOME FULLY SENTIENT!
>> If you can change yourself
>> a teeny weeny bit for the
>> better YOU ARE A STAR!
> Someone once said to me - it doesn't matter what you are transcending
> big or small as long as you are transending that's the game.
Start where you are!
>> How many
>> can equal
>> that feat?
>>
>> If you can change a little,
>> you can change a lot.
> I like the lot bit better than the little.
OK! DO MORE!
>> It's a long journey.
>> You just started.
> Yep! I started ages ago but I've been skippingaround the same level for
> a long time now.
OK. You taxi'd back and forth on the runway.
Motor sounds good; controls are responsive.
Time to take off and fly, to a NEW destination!
>> YOU MOVED!
>> WAY COOL!
>>
>> You're not dead yet!
>> That separates you
>> from the zombies!
>>
>> One tiny motion
>> completely shifts
>> you into an entirely
>> new class: moving!
>>
>> The quick
>> rise from
>> the dead!
>>
>> BRAVO!
>>
>>>> I think you were stuck in some valence
>>>> when you were posting a couple years ago,
>>
>>> Can you explain valance a bit. I get the impression though and yes I
>>> was stuck in something, but then my life is a series of being stuck in
>>> some valances.
>>
>> valence = identity = role = script:
>> cowboy, indian, older brother, salesman,
>> my dad, mother, defiant young hothead,
>> a "proper" guru . . . watever you like.
>
> Thanks - that's explains it .
> I keep getting caught in the bloody things -
From 0=Failure=Death on down
they are a constant presence.
> just take over - takes a lot to see and catch them.But I do see them
> more these days - I'm aware atsome point I'm running in a script but
> still difficultto get off it.
OK! SEEING is the first step.
Causing or uncausing follow.
>> Any role you are desperately attached to, or
>> compulsively opposed to . . . for now at least.
>> Most people have a few favorite ones they
>> flop between, in endless cycles of wank.
>>
>>>> I think you got that valence up to zero . . .
>>>> Got that zero, +-20, +-40, resonance going.
>>>>
>>>> Sat oo the cusp of a valence choice looking,
>>>> and FOUND YOURSELF where you are now.
>>>>
>>>> I've seen it before where you see the
>>>> social self, the valence the guy believes
>>>> and projects, get up near zero and then
>>>> he SEES that's NOT HIM, and that his
>>>> ACTUAL location is around -40 or so.
>>>
>>> Yep!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You've gotten to a deeper level of him.
>>>> That's a full circle completion of a small
>>>> game expanding to a much larger game.
>>
>>> Deeper level of the social self?
>>
>> NO!
>>
>> You trashed your social self!
>> You gave up trying to find the
>> perfect social self to pretend to!
>> You defaulted to the grim truth!
>
> :-)
> Not sure I've fully given up the social self yet.
Sure! That's the end result of getting
to zero, out of your pretence liabilities.
But you're enough unstuck from those
to *SEE* WHERE YOU ACTUALLY ARE!
You ALREADY HAVE at least one
realistic viewpoint on yourself.
That's a big asset in
curing your errors!
At least you can
admit they exist!
> I see myself in my
> winning formula trying to impress often - laughable really.
Hexcellent!
What are you PRETENDING to be?
That usually gets to the quick of it.
> But I do see it more as time goes by.
And you KEEP LOOKING!
Hexcellent!
>> A huge leap ahead! . . .
>> To see where you are!
>>
>>>>>> LOOK *AT* THE HUMP!
>>>>>> *THAT'S* YOUR START!
>>
>>> Yeah - I did - I did an hour last night.
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>>> I'll try to post soon if I can in summary.
>>
>> OK!
>>
>>> Was good actually - difficult - the resistance to
>>> moving and starting is huge to the point of pain -
>>
>> OK! That's what make's it a hump!
>
> Yeah - good word for it.
>
>>
>>> but I looked and pushed through and did get some insights.
>>
>> NEW UNDERSTANDING!
>>
>> As your viewpoint shifts . . .
>> your behavior follows naturally.
> This part I really have to see.
Of course . . .
Keep looking.
>> You never have to
>> force yourself to do
>> something that is
>> obvious and seems
>> quite natural, NOW.
>>
>>>>> Absolutely. As you said the psychedelics are better. I was not
>>>>> referring to them. I take GHB - it's has a more alchohol type effect
>>>>> but without the toxic effects on the body.
>>
>>>> OK! I don't know that one.
>>>
>>> http://www.ceri.com/ghbpage.shtml - a fairly positive view on it.
>>> Problem is I do find myself with a bit of a dependence on it - I use
>>> to relax to go to sleep, and other places in place of drink, but,
>>> although not physically addictive it is phychologically.
>> Thanks! Now they are making things
>> illegal before I even hear of them!
> Hehe - yes - a drug that's good for you. Ban it!
> I think swedan even have a kind of broad ban now - anything that makes
> you feel good (i.e abuse potential) = automatically illegal. :-)
> What would we do without a government to save us from harming
> ourselves huh!
Nothing Productive!
[to the government]
>>>>>> BUT *YOU* MOVED!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You KNOW something
>>>>>> is missing from your
>>>>>> own life equation.
>>
>>> Great! :-)
>>
>>>>>> YOU ARE RISING BY
>>>>>> YOUR OWN EFFORT!
>>
>>> Well - that remains to be seen
>>
>> It does?
> Well yes and no. I'm not moving anywhere near as fast as I would lik
> these last years.
OK!
That's where you are now.
Where might you be?
>> It's blindingly obvious to me,
>> based on your own reports!
> Ummm - but I have reported so little.
????
You reported so *MUCH!*
You read about UCP!
[you forgot to lecture
about it's ills for years!]
YOU DID UCP!
YOU KEPT DOING UCP.
YOU GOT CHANGES AND
NEW PERCEPTIONS!
YOU REPORTED TOO!
===============
THAT'S PERFECT!
===============
WHAT could you
have done better?
> Still nice to hear you see somethingthat is not immediately obvious to
> me.
1] You're doing ucp.
2] You're making gains.
3] You're posting to us.
THAT'S *HUGE!*
Which of those are
not obvious to you?
That's the most
you could do
where you are!
YOU WIN!
KEEP PLAYING!
>> You seem to have some
>> stuck picture that it's "all
>> the same", and THINK you
>> must not be moving at all?
>
> Yep!
OK!
Ever felt like that before?
>> Ever felt like that before?
>> [or however you do feel
>> about all this right now]
>
> I'll look at that one.
OK!
>> I'm thrilled you are moving!
>>
>> You are dismayed that
>> you are not there yet!
>
> Not dismayed - just neutral - though more positive now.
OK!
Another gain.
>> When you walk a few steps,
>> your picture has already
>> changed quite perceptibly.
>>
>> You need to look closely
>> to see where to step next.
>
> Thanks for the clue.
>
>>
>> Watching that change,
>> will enable the next.
>
> OK
>
>>
>> Compare you now to
>> a few sessions ago,
>> and two years ago,
>> when you posted.
>
> Ok
>>
>> I'm much more interested in
>> people who are moving than
>> people at fixed high tone levels.
>
> Oh God yes!
> Nothing more tedious or boring to me than someone thinking they are
> secure and
>
>>
>> A guy who keeps moving will
>> always pass a guy who doe not.
>>
>> Traveling companions know the path.
>> Nomads share something the farmers
>> don't, even if they live at high elevation.
>>
>> One is a photo . . .
>> the other a movie!
>>
>>> but I have some hope.
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>> Much better than that,
>> you have some results!
> Yes I start to see a few now.
Hexcellent!
You have to
look to see!
> At least the usefulnes of it as a tool
> to look at stuff from different anglesand de-hook myself from scripts
> to take a look at them.
Yessence!
You have a new tool AND
you are learning to use it!
You're still a newbie, and
you already did some work,
and got some results.
>> And new viewpoints!
>>
>> YOU KNOW HOW
>> to improve your
>> own viewpoints.
> Ok - not sure about I know how to improve - but I can look.
DOING UCP IMPROVES YOUR VIEWPOINTS!
>> That's the KEY to
>> unlock a new you!
>
> COOOOOL!!!
>
>>
>>>>> I've discovered mostly things are very....
>>>>> soupy inside! and hard to verbalise!
>>>>
>>>> NEW PERCEPTION!
>>
>>> yes - I have been looking at this one more.
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>>>> I say that's a great big deal!
>>>> ANYTHING *YOU DISCOVER*
>>>> IS a big deal. Discovering
>>>> something CONNECTED TO
>>>> your actual life has obvious
>>>> potential for real progress.
>>
>>>> MOVING A LITTLE IS
>>>> A *VERY* BIG DEAL!
>>
>>> That is a great way to look at it.
>>
>> That's what separates
>> winners from losers.
>>
>> KEEP MOVING!
>> KEEP WINNING!
>
> :-)
>
>>
>> If you just climb
>> one step at a time,
>> and keep at it . . .
>> you get to the top!
>>
>> THAT'S THE BIGGEST
>> DEAL THERE IS!
>
> Yes - thanks for the reminder.
>
>>
>>>> Like a steam locomotive,
>>>> getting started is hardest.
>>
>>> YEs - like this in everything for me.
>>
>> OK!
>>
>> But you already got started!
>> You just have to keep at it!
>>
>> YOU ALREADY *WON!*
>> JUST KEEP WINNING!
>>
>>>> Once it moves at all, no
>>>> matter how slowly, it picks
>>>> up more and more speed, as
>>>> long as you shovel the coal.
>>
>>> OR it picks up plateurs and dies -the normal pattern - enthusiasm -
>>> boredom - give up.
>>
>> YES! That's why I'm SO excited about you.
>> You already gave up on UCP, several times!
> Yep! sometimes I'm like this. Attention in and out for a while but
> things with substance stick and hang around even if I keep going in
> and out.
OK!
Your attention keeps sticking
on some things, even in your
swirl of "random" confusion.
A good sign!
Work with it!
>> You've been through that pattern several times.
>> And yet you keep coming back to ucp because
>> it makes sense and it works.
> It makes sense and I like you.
Way Cool!
Me too!
> The works bit I need to find out more.
Hexcellent! *DO!*
>> And you were
>> willing to do the hard work to bypass your
>> social self and confront your wiped out self.
>> You kept coming back to him over and over
>> again, until you KNEW you couldn't deny him.
> No choice - pain is too much in the end.
OK!
> Have to find something that works.
CONGRATULATIONS!
ON YOUR SUCCESSFUL SEARCH!
You beat six billion to the solution.
>> Congratulations!
>>
>> That's the one who needs help!
>> And deserves it for standing up!
>>
>> When you stopped denying him,
>> you finally started to help him!
>>
>> You scraped through all your own crap
>> about where you thought you were . . .
>> until you got down to the real dirt!
>>
>> Congratulations!
>>
>> Now you can plant a garden
>> and grow something good!
> I like that - such a great way of putting things.
Thanks!
I try to put them,
the way they are!
>> YOU KNOW SOMETHING!
>> Even if it's not pleasant!
>>
>> The unpleasant truths are
>> often critically important!
>
>
> Yes
>
>>
>> And when your bewildered sElf
>> decided to get in touch with mine
>> . . . YOUR TIMING WAS *PERFECT!*
>>
>> We seem to be in sync.
>> I'm inclined to think you
>> must be doing something
>> . . . hextremely b/right!
>
> :-)
>
>>
>>> I hope this one is not that way -
>>
>> I think you are past that stage.
>> Now that know where you are,
>> you WILL *SEE* your ACTUAL
>> progress as you move up tone.
>>
>> Those gains don't vanish.
>>
>>> I have intention for it not to be -
>>
>> YESSENCE!
>>
>> That's one critical difference already!
>> That's the BIGGEST critical difference!
>> It's the prime mover for all the others!
>>
>> And you don't think
>> you've made progress?
>>
>> I beg to differ! :-)
>>
>> LOOK FOR YOURSELF
>> . . . AT YOURSELF!
>>
>>> I want to move to next level ofenthusiasm beyond the initial plateur.
>>
>> That's HEXACTLY *WHY* I'm so enthusiastic
>> about your progress already. You've DONE
>> much heavy lifting to SEE WHERE YOU ARE!
>>
>> That's a critical milestone!
>> Now you CAN move fast!
>>
>> You are above hallucination on the work
>> to be done to fix yourself up to the kind
>> of standards that keep getting higher!
>> Fantastic! You *should* be daunted!
>
> Cool!
>
>>
>> You're not still trying
>> to prove to yourself
>> you're perfect already!
>>
>> It's a good indicator to
>> be dubious or cautious!
>>
>>>> One of my teachers was with Leary at Millbrook,
>>>
>>> Cool! Leary was a brave pioneer. I have a lot of respect for him.
>>
>> Yes. I made a point of hearing Tim in LA a few years
>> before he died, to see if he looked damaged from
>> all that acid. He had all of his marbles . . . and a
>> lot he most have won from somebody else too!
> Yes - amazing isn't it. I find it hard to imagine the bravery it took
> for this guy to fly out on the edge - to push the envelope so much and
> he began at 42. Quite an inspiration. And they were doing lots of
> strong acid - my mind boggles.
Yessence!
>>> Seems to be that way - depressing huh! a world of zombies.
>>
>> YES! When I hear someone screaming:
>> "Help! I'm dying!" I geat really hexcited!
>
> :-)
>
>>
>> I GOT A *LIVE* ONE NOW!
>> WHO KNOWS HE'S ALIVE!
>> AND WANTS SOME HELP!
>> I CAN WORK WITH THAT!
> Great!
>> The chart is simple!
>> Start at the left. Look
>> at the 1, 2, 4 divisions.
>> Those are the chart.
>>
>> Everything else is just
>> finer and finer refinements
>> to measure small movements.
>>
>> Get the latest excel chart from the web site,
>> read the notes, print it out, and LOOK at it.
>> LOOK at the chart at the end of your session.
>
> Ok - I will look - I have not been looking - only doing some UCP
OK! Now you have some
hexperience looking at
your own universe . . .
comparing it to the
Universal Perspective
helps you understand
where you are now
and what s next.
> Thanks again KP.
>
> Richard
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