Friday, November 10, 2006

Re: New discoveries

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DATE: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:05:38 -0700,
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: New discoveries
POSTER: Justin White [justintonation@hotmail.com]
REPLY-TO: alt.ucp

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On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:05:38 -0700,
Justin White [justintonation@hotmail.com] wrote:

> Hello Folks,

Hello!

> I have not done a session for a while now.

We suspected. :-)

>I do not have any interest in my past anymore.

Apathy?

>I read an interesting book (or at least some of it ;-) ) on affirmations.
>I then watched a show called 'the secret' which was about similar subjects.
>Basically that your focus and attention create your world.

OK. Many books say that.

>Focus on problems and you will manifest problems.
>Focus on how you want the world to be now.
>Actually live as though your world was already the
>way you wish and it will become that way.

Yes. Many say that.
THIS is their world?

WOW!

>You will become a magnet for the type of people you want in your life
>if you are the person (pretend) that has those people in their life.

A lifelong loner lecturing on
becoming a people magnet is
not very convincing unless
he is attracting large crowds.

You still have a lot of
attention on Pretense.

> After my last session I realised that the whole of the tone scale is pretence.

Perhaps you've come up to DELUSION = + 0.375 ?

>The tone scale actually reflects the health of the body
>much more than anything to do with you as a spirit.

Are you still stuck in BEING BODIES?
Are you going down tone as you
get older and your body dies?
Is that reflected in your posts?

>When your body is healthy and able to handle
>games in the physical universe then you will be uptone.

By this logic, teenagers are
much more uptone than
their parents, and regress
progressively to death.

How is it that when I was young
and a champion athlete, I was
so psychotic and disfunctional,
and now that I am old and fat,
I am so much more serene?

>When your health suffers then of course you will be downtone.

You've never seen people go uptone when dying?
You've never seen psychotics in good health?

> The turning point for me was realising that I could have anything at
> all I wanted.

You made it to DELUSIONs of invincibility?

>Everything is achievable.

Hypnothetically speaking, of course.

>The other thing was that I
> realised that I was and had everything now.

And can therefore DO anything too?
Are you now the invisible superhero
who appears in all the superhero shows?
Whose credits appear in invisble letters?
You've begun blurring your posting personality
with your invisible superhero performce. It's
been showing up in lots of your posts lately.

>So basically the bind was that if I have everything

The bind is that IF you are living
in IF then you are really in a bind.

>and am everything already what do I do here?

Right now, you are playing WHAT IF games.

If you are everything already,
what do *I* do here? I gues
I'll just have to be you now!

Are you still crashing back
into Detachment and Death
with attention on Pretence?

> Well... I guess it doesn't matter really.

Apathy?

>Whatever I enjoy,

What is that?

IS there something,
or are you speaking
hypnothetically here?

>whatever will help others the most?

What about helping yourself
recover from being everything?

> .........................
>

> TIME only affects the physical universe.

And the consciousness universe,
or you would not be aware of the
physical universe. YOU can't have
the physical without the personal.
Are there more universes beyond?

>Out side of the physical universe there is no time.
>Because there is no decay or change in energy.

The physical universe is matter, energy, space and time.
Out side if it, there is no matter, evergy, space or time.
I hope that's not a shocking surprise to you, as it's
quite firmly rooted in the the definitions themselves.

> The main pretence is confusing yourself with your body.

So you separated your
self from your body?

How far away is it now?

Or are we just talking
hypnothetically now?

>The tone scale represents your body

If you apply it
to your body.

It lenses whatever
it is pointed toward.

I perceive the tone of the body
separate from the tone of the spirit.

You assert they are actually separable.
Why would they not have seperate tones?

>and your spirits reactions to its fate.

WHICH *IS* YOUR TONE LEVEL!

WHO is your spirit?

>Nothing more.

Since, in your universe,
there isn't much more.

>YOU are actually every point on the tone scale at once.

Sure, you have attention is many different areas
at different stages of evolution and responsibility.

But your awareness of yourself
is still a limiting factor for all.

> Once you get to this point then you have to make a decision.

What did you decide?

Or are you speaking
hypnothetically?

> Essentially playing a game in the physical universe requires pretending
> to be a body and viewing things from the limited perspective of a body.

So you bowed to your fate of Pretence?
And are pretending you are a body now?
And are now pretending it's all pretend?

>If you decide to do this then go for it!

What did you decide?

>Whatever you are into do that!

What did you decide?

>Otherwise if you want to get out make sure
>it is not due to not being able to handle 'life'.

How can I be sure of that?

Is pretending I am sure surely
good enough to bet my life on?

Are you sure?

Or just pretending?

Or are you just sure
you are pretending?

>Aversion to the physical things is as bad as
> attachment to physical things.

So you have renounced renunciation?

>So essentially normal suicide is not an option.

Suicide is "normal" now? WOW!
Things are worse than I thought!

But an aversion to death is as
bad as an attachment to life?

WHO deleted my options?

Can't I be bad as well as good?
Isn't attachment to good just as
crippling as other attachments?

>If you want an early escape, perhaps learn
>how to astral travel and just disconnect from
> your body.

Perhaps.

Speaking Hypnothetically.

>If you cannot do that then you still have alot of stuck
>attention on your body.

Does that bother you?

>So if you cannot leave without destroyng your
>body then you are not ready to go anyway!

So you are staying
because you are
not ready to go?

> Well, there is much more.

On that, at least, we agree!

>But in the mean time do what you want to do now.

Thank you!

I presumed your permission,
probably prematurely, but
perhaps preciously and
possibly preemptively!

Did my belief I already
had your permission
force you to give it?

>Believe you already have it,

I believed you were
very interested in
creating community.

Did that make it true?

Congratulations!

You've made it up to the
Delusion that Pretending
will make it all true for you.

>pretend that you are living
>the life you want to live.

Apparently, the life
you want to live is
Pretending! WOW!
Ideal Scene Already!

You got up to Power on
Pretence by Pretending!

You went "OT" already!

>You are pretending anyway you may as
>well pretend something that you will enjoy!

Universalize those sexual fantasies!
Why settle for second best? Ever!
The Very Best Pretences, ONLY!

If I pretend I'm not pretending
will that make it all come true?

Is that the ultimate secret?
The truely secret secret?

> All the best
>
> Justin

THANKS FOR POSTING!


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