Thursday, January 26, 2006
Re: Some Cryptic stuff
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DATE: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 07:59:29 -0800
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THREAD: Re: Some Cryptic stuff
POSTER: frankds
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 07:59:29 -0800,
frankds wrote:
. . . big snip . . .
phILL wILL:
>> > The actual deal is earth shaking experience...an experience
>> > that cannot be framed in words or comments without
>> > obliterating it..
Justin:
>> Are you obliterating it by writing these words? Your own take is
>> rendered void by your own actions.
>> > Recall that Frank spoke of the silence...
Justin:
>> Yes. But he did not expain how he got to that point. Did he just
>> continue doign UCP or did he give it up and realise that the goal is
>> atainable from any point by any practice et
Captain Frank Tells His Story!
> 8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888
>
> it all started in the Sydney HASI, where I took an auditors course
That's Scientology jargon. More follows.
> back then at the completion you received free auditing (I think 40 hrs)
>
> I was being run on R-3M, a goals finding process
>
> my auditor was Trish Anderson and she was reading items from a list
> that I made,
> watching the emeter to null the items
>
> I was probably looking at her tits, bored ,thinking good thoughts
>
> my body was twitching so I decided to keep it still and to stop the
> thoughts so that we wouldn't get the wrong item ****( I just cognited
> on this a few days ago what it meant)
Fascinating!
"I think I'll stop my thoughts!"
Is that the PERFECT thought?
Thanks for sharing!
> suddenly I was about 6 inches above my head and feeling really
> wonderful and bright and alive and happy and joyful
Triple Way Cool!
> Trish was still calling out items for a few minutes and suddenly looked
> up and excused herself and left the room
>
> she cane back with the course supervisor who then declared me CLEAR
>
> I didn't do any more scientology as there was so many interesting
> things to do in life
Hextra Way Cool!
I think that's the best success story
I've ever heard about Scientology!
> but over the years I became a little less awareand knew that I wanted to
> regain that state again
OK!
> SO>>>>>>>>>>> UCP....................KP said it would take ypu ALL THE
> WAY!
>
> 20 hrs to find out it works
YESSENCE!
> 100hrs above death
YESSENCE!
Somewhere in here
you passed me by!
> 300hrs just before going sailing for a few months, walking across my
> living room I suddenly realised that I was looking across the ceiling
> maybe a foot down........
Way Cool!
> it only lasted a couple of minutes
>
> the first 300hrs was the best!
????
I would have thought
the *LAST* was best?
COMPLETING! and
being HEXTERIOR
WITH PERCEPTION!
> plugging along...grinding along doing more UCP
Grinding along thru Enthusiasm, Aesthetics, etc!
How could you possibly stand such tuff torture?
> I was refered to a site www.centerforsacredsciences it was mostly
> buddhist oriented, but I was interested because it was comparing all
> the different religions which I knew nothing about and there were
> lectures I downloaded and copied to cd's
This is hextremely interesting!
How elegant comparing religions!
UCP on religion itself: similar to
Ernest Holmes' Science of Mind
synthesis of all world religions.
He developed a simple tone scale,
which Hubbard vastly expanded.
http://www.centerforsacredsciences.org/
"Center for Sacred Sciences
Exploring the mystical traditions, their universal principles,
and their compatibility with modern science."
Gosh!
Universal Principles!
The Universal Common Principles!
Keep showing up! How Universal!
Everywhere you look,
you keep seeing
the universal!
Once you open your Ayes!
> I was listening to them on a trip to Virginia to work on a boat I just
> bought when the speaker Joel was talking about the monkey mind and how
> difficult it was to quiet and that some seekers took 20 ior 30 years
>
> he told his audience to try to quiet it
> I suddenly went DEAF...took me a minute or two to realise that I could
> hear
>
> it was my mind that went QUIET
QUADRUPLE WAY COOL!
> after that I was more aware of times when the mind was quiet....I was
> still doing UCP
Way Cool!
> the LAST session was on the 5th of JAN...
> past and future questions seem useless
Sounds like you got above the
here and now, into the forever!
When past, present and future
are all just the eternal now,
I imagine it's hard
to pick them apart!
Why would you try?
*CONGRATULATIONS!*
=================================
THE *FIRST* UCP-COMPLETE PERSON!
=================================
=============================
INTEGRATED WITH THE ETERNAL!
In 700+ hours in about 3+? years!
=============================
==========================
WE FINALLY HAVE THE FIRST
FULL *CYCLE* COMPLETION!
==========================
You are making me look really good! . . .
despite Interference from my tone level!
THANKS SO MUCH
FOR MAKING ME
HEXTRA RIGHT!
JANUARY 5, 2006
IS A BIG DATE FOR
YOU, ME, AND UCP!
WELL, NOT FOR YOU, IT'S
ALWAYS BEEN FOREVER!
> silence seems to have some importance....
OK! Is that what some call The Void?
> someone sent me a site www.puresilence that is really interesting to me
www.puresilence.org
The Silence must have sent it
. . . by Communicating to You!
> I'm also reading some sites on non-duality
OK! Got References?
> I practice NOTHING
OK!
Is that the same as NOT Practicing anything?
Or are you Deliberately Practicing NOTHING?
> I'm seeing what IS
WAY COOL!
> SO!.......there you have it
THANKS!
That's the most focused tale
I've heard from you yet, and
by far the most interesting!
> some long dialogues and wanky crap....
> I'm not interested in receiving
Of course.
Who wants wanky crap?
Dump it with the diAPEr!
Keep the baby.
Help it grow up.
Teach it to learn.
Learn it to teach.
Spread the wORd!
Some long dialogs are
called "relationships!"
or even "friendships!"
I've heard rumors about
families and tribes, but
it's probably just
pro'pagan'da PR.
What you do
is up to you!
> but if I can help you
That would probably require both
your attention and communication
. . . with much less aware beings,
who haven't saved themselves yet.
. . . Are you down for that bummer?
> or there is something you want know
What will you do next?
But since you no
longer plan ahead,
I won't bother to ask!
I'll have to see
the play unfold in
our eternal NOW.
> frankds1@yahoo.com
> I will stop using this group in a day or two
THANKS FOR STOPPING BYE!
THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT
EVEN BETTER THAN I . . . SO FAR!
AND GIVING US SOMETHING TO
*COMPARE* OUR S*ELVES TO!
WHAT A GREAT LEAP AHEAD!
You've inspired me
to work harder on
my own tone. :-)
THERE IS AN *END!*
UCP CAN BE DONE!:
NOT JUST STARTED!
BUT "FINISHED NOW!"
UCP CAN BE ULTIMATELY
COMPLETED PROPERLY!
WE KNOW THAT NOW!
YOU PROVE IT TO ME!
THAT GIVES ME MORE
CONFIDENCE IN MYSELF!
You haven't died yet!
Might be safe for me!
Sounds bizarre, but
It works for me now!
I FINALLY GOT A COMPLETION
IN MY OWN PERSONAL GAME!
FANTASTIC!
For some purposes,
that's all that counts!
Even tho it
wasn't me!
That omission can
be rectified now.
Could'a been before!
Even more likely now!
For other purposes,
I'll do more sessions,
as if my time writing
all these posts were
not a continuous now,
which is why I so love
posting my HEX*ACTLY!
A MILESTONE MOMENT!
QUADRUPLE WAY COOL!
I imagine we'll see a lot
more UCP interest now
you have given such a
sensational GOoDbye!
In MY imagination,
I see you going off
to the non-dual
locations, and
being so here,
we get there
traffic on
alt.ucp :-)
Looking for the state
of your pastless and
futureless NOW!WOW!
I see you as my ambassador
to the non-dual realms! :-)
Could I have chosen better?
Your silence
precedes and
proceeds mine!
ISN'T THAT
PERFECT
ALREADY!
> best wishes to you all in your quest
> frank
THANKS FOR PLAYING!
THANKS FOR POSTING!
THANKS FOR *ALL* THE
BEST WISHES TOO YOU!
O
--- )
KONCHOK PENDAY
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FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
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SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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*DO* THE UN!VERSAL CONSC!OUS PRACT!CE!
*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO P'R'E'SENT!
UCP !S THE *CRUX* OF RAT!ONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT !S THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSC!OUSNESS!
alt.ucp = THE UN!VERS!TY OF CONSC!OUSNESS!
YOU CAN RA!SE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SP!R!TUAL EVELUTION!
USE THE FREE V!RTUAL W!TNESS ONL!NE NOW!
ONE S!ZE F!TS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
!NQU!RE W!TH!N, ABOUT BECOMING YOURS'ELF!
P!NNACLE PATHS P!TCH PERFECT PER!METERS!
THE PR!ZE PATH !S A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL N-L!GHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODH!SATTVAS
S!NCE THE SECOND M!LLENN!UM
ONE BODH!SATTVA AT A T!ME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
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. . . big snip old stuff . . .
DATE: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 07:59:29 -0800
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: Some Cryptic stuff
POSTER: frankds
REPLY TO: alt.ucp
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 07:59:29 -0800,
frankds
. . . big snip . . .
phILL wILL:
>> > The actual deal is earth shaking experience...an experience
>> > that cannot be framed in words or comments without
>> > obliterating it..
Justin:
>> Are you obliterating it by writing these words? Your own take is
>> rendered void by your own actions.
>> > Recall that Frank spoke of the silence...
Justin:
>> Yes. But he did not expain how he got to that point. Did he just
>> continue doign UCP or did he give it up and realise that the goal is
>> atainable from any point by any practice et
Captain Frank Tells His Story!
> 8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888
>
> it all started in the Sydney HASI, where I took an auditors course
That's Scientology jargon. More follows.
> back then at the completion you received free auditing (I think 40 hrs)
>
> I was being run on R-3M, a goals finding process
>
> my auditor was Trish Anderson and she was reading items from a list
> that I made,
> watching the emeter to null the items
>
> I was probably looking at her tits, bored ,thinking good thoughts
>
> my body was twitching so I decided to keep it still and to stop the
> thoughts so that we wouldn't get the wrong item ****( I just cognited
> on this a few days ago what it meant)
Fascinating!
"I think I'll stop my thoughts!"
Is that the PERFECT thought?
Thanks for sharing!
> suddenly I was about 6 inches above my head and feeling really
> wonderful and bright and alive and happy and joyful
Triple Way Cool!
> Trish was still calling out items for a few minutes and suddenly looked
> up and excused herself and left the room
>
> she cane back with the course supervisor who then declared me CLEAR
>
> I didn't do any more scientology as there was so many interesting
> things to do in life
Hextra Way Cool!
I think that's the best success story
I've ever heard about Scientology!
> but over the years I became a little less awareand knew that I wanted to
> regain that state again
OK!
> SO>>>>>>>>>>> UCP....................KP said it would take ypu ALL THE
> WAY!
>
> 20 hrs to find out it works
YESSENCE!
> 100hrs above death
YESSENCE!
Somewhere in here
you passed me by!
> 300hrs just before going sailing for a few months, walking across my
> living room I suddenly realised that I was looking across the ceiling
> maybe a foot down........
Way Cool!
> it only lasted a couple of minutes
>
> the first 300hrs was the best!
????
I would have thought
the *LAST* was best?
COMPLETING! and
being HEXTERIOR
WITH PERCEPTION!
> plugging along...grinding along doing more UCP
Grinding along thru Enthusiasm, Aesthetics, etc!
How could you possibly stand such tuff torture?
> I was refered to a site www.centerforsacredsciences it was mostly
> buddhist oriented, but I was interested because it was comparing all
> the different religions which I knew nothing about and there were
> lectures I downloaded and copied to cd's
This is hextremely interesting!
How elegant comparing religions!
UCP on religion itself: similar to
Ernest Holmes' Science of Mind
synthesis of all world religions.
He developed a simple tone scale,
which Hubbard vastly expanded.
http://www.centerforsacredsciences.org/
"Center for Sacred Sciences
Exploring the mystical traditions, their universal principles,
and their compatibility with modern science."
Gosh!
Universal Principles!
The Universal Common Principles!
Keep showing up! How Universal!
Everywhere you look,
you keep seeing
the universal!
Once you open your Ayes!
> I was listening to them on a trip to Virginia to work on a boat I just
> bought when the speaker Joel was talking about the monkey mind and how
> difficult it was to quiet and that some seekers took 20 ior 30 years
>
> he told his audience to try to quiet it
> I suddenly went DEAF...took me a minute or two to realise that I could
> hear
>
> it was my mind that went QUIET
QUADRUPLE WAY COOL!
> after that I was more aware of times when the mind was quiet....I was
> still doing UCP
Way Cool!
> the LAST session was on the 5th of JAN...
> past and future questions seem useless
Sounds like you got above the
here and now, into the forever!
When past, present and future
are all just the eternal now,
I imagine it's hard
to pick them apart!
Why would you try?
*CONGRATULATIONS!*
=================================
THE *FIRST* UCP-COMPLETE PERSON!
=================================
=============================
INTEGRATED WITH THE ETERNAL!
In 700+ hours in about 3+? years!
=============================
==========================
WE FINALLY HAVE THE FIRST
FULL *CYCLE* COMPLETION!
==========================
You are making me look really good! . . .
despite Interference from my tone level!
THANKS SO MUCH
FOR MAKING ME
HEXTRA RIGHT!
JANUARY 5, 2006
IS A BIG DATE FOR
YOU, ME, AND UCP!
WELL, NOT FOR YOU, IT'S
ALWAYS BEEN FOREVER!
> silence seems to have some importance....
OK! Is that what some call The Void?
> someone sent me a site www.puresilence that is really interesting to me
www.puresilence.org
The Silence must have sent it
. . . by Communicating to You!
> I'm also reading some sites on non-duality
OK! Got References?
> I practice NOTHING
OK!
Is that the same as NOT Practicing anything?
Or are you Deliberately Practicing NOTHING?
> I'm seeing what IS
WAY COOL!
> SO!.......there you have it
THANKS!
That's the most focused tale
I've heard from you yet, and
by far the most interesting!
> some long dialogues and wanky crap....
> I'm not interested in receiving
Of course.
Who wants wanky crap?
Dump it with the diAPEr!
Keep the baby.
Help it grow up.
Teach it to learn.
Learn it to teach.
Spread the wORd!
Some long dialogs are
called "relationships!"
or even "friendships!"
I've heard rumors about
families and tribes, but
it's probably just
pro'pagan'da PR.
What you do
is up to you!
> but if I can help you
That would probably require both
your attention and communication
. . . with much less aware beings,
who haven't saved themselves yet.
. . . Are you down for that bummer?
> or there is something you want know
What will you do next?
But since you no
longer plan ahead,
I won't bother to ask!
I'll have to see
the play unfold in
our eternal NOW.
> frankds1@yahoo.com
> I will stop using this group in a day or two
THANKS FOR STOPPING BYE!
THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT
EVEN BETTER THAN I . . . SO FAR!
AND GIVING US SOMETHING TO
*COMPARE* OUR S*ELVES TO!
WHAT A GREAT LEAP AHEAD!
You've inspired me
to work harder on
my own tone. :-)
THERE IS AN *END!*
UCP CAN BE DONE!:
NOT JUST STARTED!
BUT "FINISHED NOW!"
UCP CAN BE ULTIMATELY
COMPLETED PROPERLY!
WE KNOW THAT NOW!
YOU PROVE IT TO ME!
THAT GIVES ME MORE
CONFIDENCE IN MYSELF!
You haven't died yet!
Might be safe for me!
Sounds bizarre, but
It works for me now!
I FINALLY GOT A COMPLETION
IN MY OWN PERSONAL GAME!
FANTASTIC!
For some purposes,
that's all that counts!
Even tho it
wasn't me!
That omission can
be rectified now.
Could'a been before!
Even more likely now!
For other purposes,
I'll do more sessions,
as if my time writing
all these posts were
not a continuous now,
which is why I so love
posting my HEX*ACTLY!
A MILESTONE MOMENT!
QUADRUPLE WAY COOL!
I imagine we'll see a lot
more UCP interest now
you have given such a
sensational GOoDbye!
In MY imagination,
I see you going off
to the non-dual
locations, and
being so here,
we get there
traffic on
alt.ucp :-)
Looking for the state
of your pastless and
futureless NOW!WOW!
I see you as my ambassador
to the non-dual realms! :-)
Could I have chosen better?
Your silence
precedes and
proceeds mine!
ISN'T THAT
PERFECT
ALREADY!
> best wishes to you all in your quest
> frank
THANKS FOR PLAYING!
THANKS FOR POSTING!
THANKS FOR *ALL* THE
BEST WISHES TOO YOU!
O
--- )
KONCHOK PENDAY
KP@net-prophet.net = email
http://net-prophet.net/ = website
alt.ucp = the ucp usenet newsgroup
blogicalthought.blogspot.com = blog
INTEGRATOR: Universal Conscious Plot:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
N-L!GHTENMENT! . . . R!GHT! . . . *NOW!*
*TOTALLY FREE!* @ http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
Unmoderated public usenet newsgroup = alt.ucp
*DO* THE UN!VERSAL CONSC!OUS PRACT!CE!
*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO P'R'E'SENT!
UCP !S THE *CRUX* OF RAT!ONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT !S THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSC!OUSNESS!
alt.ucp = THE UN!VERS!TY OF CONSC!OUSNESS!
YOU CAN RA!SE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SP!R!TUAL EVELUTION!
USE THE FREE V!RTUAL W!TNESS ONL!NE NOW!
ONE S!ZE F!TS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
!NQU!RE W!TH!N, ABOUT BECOMING YOURS'ELF!
P!NNACLE PATHS P!TCH PERFECT PER!METERS!
THE PR!ZE PATH !S A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL N-L!GHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODH!SATTVAS
S!NCE THE SECOND M!LLENN!UM
ONE BODH!SATTVA AT A T!ME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
alt.ucp posting history online at google.com . . .
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugroup=alt.ucp&lr=&num=100&hl=en
$*ELF FUN*D THE GREAT GAME: LET'S ALL GO SANE RIGHT NOW!
$END $ TO KP@net-prophet.net VIA paypal.com . . . and DO UCP!
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Re: Some Cryptic stuff
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> "frankds" wrote in message
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>>
>> Justin White wrote:
>>> Phil Scott wrote:
>>> > "Justin White" wrote in message
>>> >
>>> > snip
>>> > >
>>> > > (Does Frank object to KP's guru shoulds for people doing
>>> > > UCP? Is that
>>> > > what being finished with UCP is about?)
>>> >
>>> > You don't understand at all in that arena... Frank doesn't
>>> > give a rats ass, imo... not out of apathy at all but for other
>>> > reasons, the futility, even the extreme counter productivity
>>> > in using words or talking in that area ...
>>>
>>> But you are talking? Does that mean you are not there?
>>>
>>>
>>> > ...and also the inevitability of each persons path... they
>>> > gotts it or they ain't gotts it...and its all perfectly
>>> > wonderful... its like rocks. Some are round, others oval,
>>> > others angular,,, and its all how it is.
>>>
>>> > .......one is not running a rock rounding mill as Hubbard
>>> > thought was such a hot idea... that produces a lot of sand,
>>> > smaller rocks and ends artificially..all of that attempt is
>>> > south. thats my take on the situation. ymmv
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Have you thought of possibly
>>> > >> Shouting Sweet Somethings?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> >> > you are so... FUNNY
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> Thanks!
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> Are you laughing?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > HILARIOUSLY!!
>>> > >>
>>> > >> OK!
>>> > >
>>> > > OK!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > There are no sweet nothings. Along those lines there is only
>>> > fatally poluted garbage. KP is asking for another load, and
>>> > that is hillarious.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The actual deal is earth shaking experience...an experience
>>> > that cannot be framed in words or comments without
>>> > obliterating it..
>>>
>>> Are you obliterating it by writing these words? Your own take is
>>> rendered void by your own actions.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Recall that Frank spoke of the silence...
>>>
>>> Yes. But he did not expain how he got to that point. Did he just
>>> continue doign UCP or did he give it up and realise that the goal is
>>> atainable from any point by any practice et
Captain Frank:
>> 8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888
>>
>> it all started in the Sydney HASI, where I took an auditors course
>>
>> back then at the completion you received free auditing (I think 40 hrs)
>>
>> I was being run on R-3M, a goals finding process
>>
>> my auditor was Trish Anderson and she was reading items from a list
>> that I made,
>> watching the emeter to null the items
>>
>> I was probably looking at her tits, bored ,thinking good thoughts
>>
>> my body was twitching so I decided to keep it still and to stop the
>> thoughts so that we wouldn't get the wrong item ****( I just cognited
>> on this a few days ago what it meant)
>>
>> suddenly I was about 6 inches above my head and feeling really
>> wonderful and bright and alive and happy and joyful
>>
>> Trish was still calling out items for a few minutes and suddenly looked
>> up and excused herself and left the room
>>
>> she cane back with the course supervisor who then declared me CLEAR
>>
>> I didn't do any more scientology as there was so many interesting
>> things to do in life
>>
>> but over the years I became a little less aware and knew that I wanted
>> to regain that state again
>>
>> SO>>>>>>>>>>> UCP....................KP said it would take ypu ALL THE
>> WAY!
>>
>> 20 hrs to find out it works
>>
>> 100hrs above death
>>
>> 300hrs just before going sailing for a few months, walking across my
>> living room I suddenly realised that I was looking across the ceiling
>> maybe a foot down.........
>>
>> it only lasted a couple of minutes
>>
>> the first 300hrs was the best!
>>
>> plugging along...grinding along doing more UCP
>>
>> I was refered to a site www.centerforsacredsciences it was mostly
>> buddhist oriented, but I was interested because it was comparing all
>> the different religions which I knew nothing about and there were
>> lectures I downloaded and copied to cd's
>>
>> I was listening to them on a trip to Virginia to work on a boat I just
>> bought when the speaker Joel was talking about the monkey mind and how
>> difficult it was to quiet and that some seekers took 20 ior 30 years
>>
>> he told his audience to try to quiet it
>>
>> I suddenly went DEAF...took me a minute or two to realise that I could
>> hear
>>
>> it was my mind that went QUIET
>>
>> after that I was more aware of times when the mind was quiet....I was
>> still doing UCP
>>
>> the LAST session was on the 5th of JAN...past and future questions seem
>> useless
>>
>> silence seems to have some importance....
>>
>> someone sent me a site www.puresilence that is really interesting to me
>>
>>
>> I'm also reading some sites on non-duality
>>
>> I practice NOTHING
>>
>> I'm seeing what IS
>>
>> SO!.......there you have it
>>
>> some long dialogues and wanky crap....I'm not interested in receiving
>>
>> but if I can help you or there is something you want know
>>
>> frankds1@yahoo.com
>>
>> I will stop using this group in a day or two
>>
>> best wishes to you all in your quest
>> frank
Michael wrote:
> Hi Frank
> A final message from me too,
Your first message
. . . is also your last!
That's a novel approach!
Thanks for Stopping By!
>this NG has done it's job as far as I am concerned.
OK. Which job is that?
Can I retire now too?
> I came here running in fear from that which I really am,
OK. You can change that
to something else by ucp.
>There must be something!! that I can do,
>got to be a better state than this and so on
> and so on!
OK!
> The last few days I came full circle, back to where I started, so to
> speak.
With a NEW VIEWPOINT?
Please tell us more about
your journey from where to ?
> I recommend the following to you.
> Tony Parsons
> Wayne Liquorman
> Leo Hartong
> Nathan Gill
Hexcellent!
Now if we had some URL's . . .
> If you should dare read Tony Parsons material then after reading it all
> you will be left with nothing and nowhere to go, stripped naked in the cold
> wind!!
URL?
> Why do you think I started running,
????
I didn't even know you were
alive until a few minutes ago!
>it was too much for me to take in.
> Words! Ha
OK!
Give it out then!
> Time to feed the cats:)
> Best
> Mike
THANKS FOR POSTING!
O
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>>NOW DISTRIBUTION<< technology ="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="" uk=""> wrote:
> "frankds"
> news:1138291169.024395.118130@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Justin White wrote:
>>> Phil Scott wrote:
>>> > "Justin White"
>>> >
>>> > snip
>>> > >
>>> > > (Does Frank object to KP's guru shoulds for people doing
>>> > > UCP? Is that
>>> > > what being finished with UCP is about?)
>>> >
>>> > You don't understand at all in that arena... Frank doesn't
>>> > give a rats ass, imo... not out of apathy at all but for other
>>> > reasons, the futility, even the extreme counter productivity
>>> > in using words or talking in that area ...
>>>
>>> But you are talking? Does that mean you are not there?
>>>
>>>
>>> > ...and also the inevitability of each persons path... they
>>> > gotts it or they ain't gotts it...and its all perfectly
>>> > wonderful... its like rocks. Some are round, others oval,
>>> > others angular,,, and its all how it is.
>>>
>>> > .......one is not running a rock rounding mill as Hubbard
>>> > thought was such a hot idea... that produces a lot of sand,
>>> > smaller rocks and ends artificially..all of that attempt is
>>> > south. thats my take on the situation. ymmv
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Have you thought of possibly
>>> > >> Shouting Sweet Somethings?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> >> > you are so... FUNNY
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> Thanks!
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> Are you laughing?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > HILARIOUSLY!!
>>> > >>
>>> > >> OK!
>>> > >
>>> > > OK!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > There are no sweet nothings. Along those lines there is only
>>> > fatally poluted garbage. KP is asking for another load, and
>>> > that is hillarious.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The actual deal is earth shaking experience...an experience
>>> > that cannot be framed in words or comments without
>>> > obliterating it..
>>>
>>> Are you obliterating it by writing these words? Your own take is
>>> rendered void by your own actions.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Recall that Frank spoke of the silence...
>>>
>>> Yes. But he did not expain how he got to that point. Did he just
>>> continue doign UCP or did he give it up and realise that the goal is
>>> atainable from any point by any practice et
Captain Frank:
>> 8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888
>>
>> it all started in the Sydney HASI, where I took an auditors course
>>
>> back then at the completion you received free auditing (I think 40 hrs)
>>
>> I was being run on R-3M, a goals finding process
>>
>> my auditor was Trish Anderson and she was reading items from a list
>> that I made,
>> watching the emeter to null the items
>>
>> I was probably looking at her tits, bored ,thinking good thoughts
>>
>> my body was twitching so I decided to keep it still and to stop the
>> thoughts so that we wouldn't get the wrong item ****( I just cognited
>> on this a few days ago what it meant)
>>
>> suddenly I was about 6 inches above my head and feeling really
>> wonderful and bright and alive and happy and joyful
>>
>> Trish was still calling out items for a few minutes and suddenly looked
>> up and excused herself and left the room
>>
>> she cane back with the course supervisor who then declared me CLEAR
>>
>> I didn't do any more scientology as there was so many interesting
>> things to do in life
>>
>> but over the years I became a little less aware and knew that I wanted
>> to regain that state again
>>
>> SO>>>>>>>>>>> UCP....................KP said it would take ypu ALL THE
>> WAY!
>>
>> 20 hrs to find out it works
>>
>> 100hrs above death
>>
>> 300hrs just before going sailing for a few months, walking across my
>> living room I suddenly realised that I was looking across the ceiling
>> maybe a foot down.........
>>
>> it only lasted a couple of minutes
>>
>> the first 300hrs was the best!
>>
>> plugging along...grinding along doing more UCP
>>
>> I was refered to a site www.centerforsacredsciences it was mostly
>> buddhist oriented, but I was interested because it was comparing all
>> the different religions which I knew nothing about and there were
>> lectures I downloaded and copied to cd's
>>
>> I was listening to them on a trip to Virginia to work on a boat I just
>> bought when the speaker Joel was talking about the monkey mind and how
>> difficult it was to quiet and that some seekers took 20 ior 30 years
>>
>> he told his audience to try to quiet it
>>
>> I suddenly went DEAF...took me a minute or two to realise that I could
>> hear
>>
>> it was my mind that went QUIET
>>
>> after that I was more aware of times when the mind was quiet....I was
>> still doing UCP
>>
>> the LAST session was on the 5th of JAN...past and future questions seem
>> useless
>>
>> silence seems to have some importance....
>>
>> someone sent me a site www.puresilence that is really interesting to me
>>
>>
>> I'm also reading some sites on non-duality
>>
>> I practice NOTHING
>>
>> I'm seeing what IS
>>
>> SO!.......there you have it
>>
>> some long dialogues and wanky crap....I'm not interested in receiving
>>
>> but if I can help you or there is something you want know
>>
>> frankds1@yahoo.com
>>
>> I will stop using this group in a day or two
>>
>> best wishes to you all in your quest
>> frank
Michael
> Hi Frank
> A final message from me too,
Your first message
. . . is also your last!
That's a novel approach!
Thanks for Stopping By!
>this NG has done it's job as far as I am concerned.
OK. Which job is that?
Can I retire now too?
> I came here running in fear from that which I really am,
OK. You can change that
to something else by ucp.
>There must be something!! that I can do,
>got to be a better state than this and so on
> and so on!
OK!
> The last few days I came full circle, back to where I started, so to
> speak.
With a NEW VIEWPOINT?
Please tell us more about
your journey from where to ?
> I recommend the following to you.
> Tony Parsons
> Wayne Liquorman
> Leo Hartong
> Nathan Gill
Hexcellent!
Now if we had some URL's . . .
> If you should dare read Tony Parsons material then after reading it all
> you will be left with nothing and nowhere to go, stripped naked in the cold
> wind!!
URL?
> Why do you think I started running,
????
I didn't even know you were
alive until a few minutes ago!
>it was too much for me to take in.
> Words! Ha
OK!
Give it out then!
> Time to feed the cats:)
> Best
> Mike
THANKS FOR POSTING!
O
--- )
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FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
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*DO* THE UN!VERSAL CONSC!OUS PRACT!CE!
*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO P'R'E'SENT!
UCP !S THE *CRUX* OF RAT!ONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT !S THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSC!OUSNESS!
alt.ucp = THE UN!VERS!TY OF CONSC!OUSNESS!
YOU CAN RA!SE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SP!R!TUAL EVELUTION!
USE THE FREE V!RTUAL W!TNESS ONL!NE NOW!
ONE S!ZE F!TS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
!NQU!RE W!TH!N, ABOUT BECOMING YOURS'ELF!
P!NNACLE PATHS P!TCH PERFECT PER!METERS!
THE PR!ZE PATH !S A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL N-L!GHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODH!SATTVAS
S!NCE THE SECOND M!LLENN!UM
ONE BODH!SATTVA AT A T!ME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
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Re: Control - that's what I want!
>>PRIOR POST PROFILE<< com="">
>>NOW DISTRIBUTION<< technology ="=" com=""> wrote:
> Hi KP and ALL,
HI!
>> You're very welcome!
>> I spent 8 or 10 hours on it.
>> It was a wonderful day for me
>> since I found it SO interesting.
>>
>> I've spent another 5 or more?
>> on this round. I'm still SEEING.
> Wow! That's a long time at the computer. I'm on a computer all day as
> it is as I'm a computer programmer so hard sometimes to get back on
> and write long emails.
OK!
>>
>> OK. Keep looking!
>> They are thrillingly
>> easy for me to see!
>Oh! I still feel pretty much the same.
OK!
Is that the same as
"only a little different"
or "a little different"?
What did you expect?
Beam-me-up-stargate?
To a pyramid penthouse?
A LITTLE DIFFERENT IS
THE VERY BEST YOU CAN
REALISTICALLY HEXPECT!
WELCOME TO REALITY!
All the things that are just the same,
you probably haven't looked at very
close yet. The things that are a bit
different AT ALL are a BIG *WIN.*
YOU changed your universe.
You are NOT total effect.
You have some CAUSE!
You exist, AND you are moving!
And even in the right direction!
>Had some insights
YESSENCE!
I see that as *BIG* change.
BEHAVIOR FOLLOWS PERCEPTION.
When you *SEE* things differently
. . . you REACT to them differently!
>but behaviour still pretty much the same.
After you walk a few feet,
you are still pretty much
the same place, if you
don't look carefully
and are willing to think in generalities
instead of looking at the particlular now.
That your behavior is slightly modified
should be the subject of Celebration!
If you can change yourself
a teeny weeny bit for the
better YOU ARE A STAR!
How many
can equal
that feat?
If you can change a little,
you can change a lot.
It's a long journey.
You just started.
YOU MOVED!
WAY COOL!
You're not dead yet!
That separates you
from the zombies!
One tiny motion
completely shifts
you into an entirely
new class: moving!
The quick
rise from
the dead!
BRAVO!
>> I think you were stuck in some valence
>> when you were posting a couple years ago,
> Can you explain valance a bit. I get the impression though and yes I
> was stuck in something, but then my life is a series of being stuck in
> some valances.
valence = identity = role = script:
cowboy, indian, older brother, salesman,
my dad, mother, defiant young hothead,
a "proper" guru . . . watever you like.
Any role you are desperately attached to, or
compulsively opposed to . . . for now at least.
Most people have a few favorite ones they
flop between, in endless cycles of wank.
>> I think you got that valence up to zero . . .
>> Got that zero, +-20, +-40, resonance going.
>>
>> Sat oo the cusp of a valence choice looking,
>> and FOUND YOURSELF where you are now.
>>
>> I've seen it before where you see the
>> social self, the valence the guy believes
>> and projects, get up near zero and then
>> he SEES that's NOT HIM, and that his
>> ACTUAL location is around -40 or so.
>
> Yep!
>
>>
>> You've gotten to a deeper level of him.
>> That's a full circle completion of a small
>> game expanding to a much larger game.
> Deeper level of the social self?
NO!
You trashed your social self!
You gave up trying to find the
perfect social self to pretend to!
You defaulted to the grim truth!
A huge leap ahead! . . .
To see where you are!
>>>> LOOK *AT* THE HUMP!
>>>> *THAT'S* YOUR START!
> Yeah - I did - I did an hour last night.
Hexcellent!
>I'll try to post soon if I can in summary.
OK!
>Was good actually - difficult - the resistance to
> moving and starting is huge to the point of pain -
OK! That's what make's it a hump!
>but I looked and pushed through and did get some insights.
NEW UNDERSTANDING!
As your viewpoint shifts . . .
your behavior follows naturally.
You never have to
force yourself to do
something that is
obvious and seems
quite natural, NOW.
>>> Absolutely. As you said the psychedelics are better. I was not
>>> referring to them. I take GHB - it's has a more alchohol type effect
>>> but without the toxic effects on the body.
>> OK! I don't know that one.
>
> http://www.ceri.com/ghbpage.shtml - a fairly positive view on it.
> Problem is I do find myself with a bit of a dependence on it - I use
> to relax to go to sleep, and other places in place of drink, but,
> although not physically addictive it is phychologically.
Thanks! Now they are making things
illegal before I even hear of them!
>>>>
>>>> BUT *YOU* MOVED!
>>>>
>>>> You KNOW something
>>>> is missing from your
>>>> own life equation.
> Great! :-)
>>>> YOU ARE RISING BY
>>>> YOUR OWN EFFORT!
> Well - that remains to be seen
It does?
It's blindingly obvious to me,
based on your own reports!
You seem to have some
stuck picture that it's "all
the same", and THINK you
must not be moving at all?
Ever felt like that before?
[or however you do feel
about all this right now]
I'm thrilled you are moving!
You are dismayed that
you are not there yet!
When you walk a few steps,
your picture has already
changed quite perceptibly.
You need to look closely
to see where to step next.
Watching that change,
will enable the next.
Compare you now to
a few sessions ago,
and two years ago,
when you posted.
I'm much more interested in
people who are moving than
people at fixed high tone levels.
A guy who keeps moving will
always pass a guy who doe not.
Traveling companions know the path.
Nomads share something the farmers
don't, even if they live at high elevation.
One is a photo . . .
the other a movie!
>but I have some hope.
Hexcellent!
Much better than that,
you have some results!
And new viewpoints!
YOU KNOW HOW
to improve your
own viewpoints.
That's the KEY to
unlock a new you!
>>> I've discovered mostly things are very....
>>> soupy inside! and hard to verbalise!
>>
>> NEW PERCEPTION!
> yes - I have been looking at this one more.
Hexcellent!
>> I say that's a great big deal!
>> ANYTHING *YOU DISCOVER*
>> IS a big deal. Discovering
>> something CONNECTED TO
>> your actual life has obvious
>> potential for real progress.
>> MOVING A LITTLE IS
>> A *VERY* BIG DEAL!
> That is a great way to look at it.
That's what separates
winners from losers.
KEEP MOVING!
KEEP WINNING!
If you just climb
one step at a time,
and keep at it . . .
you get to the top!
THAT'S THE BIGGEST
DEAL THERE IS!
>> Like a steam locomotive,
>> getting started is hardest.
> YEs - like this in everything for me.
OK!
But you already got started!
You just have to keep at it!
YOU ALREADY *WON!*
JUST KEEP WINNING!
>> Once it moves at all, no
>> matter how slowly, it picks
>> up more and more speed, as
>> long as you shovel the coal.
>OR it picks up plateurs and dies -
>the normal pattern - enthusiasm -
>boredom - give up.
YES! That's why I'm SO excited about you.
You already gave up on UCP, several times!
You've been through that pattern several times.
And yet you keep coming back to ucp because
it makes sense and it works. And you were
willing to do the hard work to bypass your
social self and confront your wiped out self.
You kept coming back to him over and over
again, until you KNEW you couldn't deny him.
Congratulations!
That's the one who needs help!
And deserves it for standing up!
When you stopped denying him,
you finally started to help him!
You scraped through all your own crap
about where you thought you were . . .
until you got down to the real dirt!
Congratulations!
Now you can plant a garden
and grow something good!
YOU KNOW SOMETHING!
Even if it's not pleasant!
The unpleasant truths are
often critically important!
And when your bewildered sElf
decided to get in touch with mine
. . . YOUR TIMING WAS *PERFECT!*
We seem to be in sync.
I'm inclined to think you
must be doing something
. . . hextremely b/right!
>I hope this one is not that way -
I think you are past that stage.
Now that know where you are,
you WILL *SEE* your ACTUAL
progress as you move up tone.
Those gains don't vanish.
>I have intention for it not to be -
YESSENCE!
That's one critical difference already!
That's the BIGGEST critical difference!
It's the prime mover for all the others!
And you don't think
you've made progress?
I beg to differ! :-)
LOOK FOR YOURSELF
. . . AT YOURSELF!
>I want to move to next level of
>enthusiasm beyond the initial plateur.
That's HEXACTLY *WHY* I'm so enthusiastic
about your progress already. You've DONE
much heavy lifting to SEE WHERE YOU ARE!
That's a critical milestone!
Now you CAN move fast!
You are above hallucination on the work
to be done to fix yourself up to the kind
of standards that keep getting higher!
Fantastic! You *should* be daunted!
You're not still trying
to prove to yourself
you're perfect already!
It's a good indicator to
be dubious or cautious!
>> One of my teachers was with Leary at Millbrook,
>
> Cool! Leary was a brave pioneer. I have a lot of respect for him.
Yes. I made a point of hearing Tim in LA a few years
before he died, to see if he looked damaged from
all that acid. He had all of his marbles . . . and a
lot he most have won from somebody else too!
> The guy who's book I mentioned owns the publisher that publishes his
> books (www.newfalcon.com)
Cool! I knew one of their writers,
but never actually read his book.
>> and
>> Bagwan in Poona coffee shops before he was famous.
>> I like Bagwan a lot. I've hung out at the Yes Center in
>> LA and done some meditations. I like many Sannyasans.
>> They seem natural for UCP, but are NOT LOOKING for
>> another form of mediation: they have too many now?
>> I don't know how to reach them. PLEASE SHOW ME!
> I will if I see it working for me.
Hexcellent!
Compare yourself . . .
before and after UCP!
Tell me what you see!
>If something works for me I will tell people.
Way Cool!
>I cannot tell people about something
>I have not tested for myself properly.
Perfect! I wouldn't want you to!
It wouldn't likely be convincing!
Your progress is perfect!
That's WHY I'm so happy!
>Also I do not hang out in this community much now.
>Still I know from the people I knew in it they are thirsty for
>something that works.
Hexcellent!
>>> Will do real work to grow. No way near all of them - but enough.
>>
>> Way Cool!
>>
>> Please spread the good news to them!
> I will if it works for me :-)
Just Keep Looking! :-)
>>> Happy birthday UCP ONLINE!!!
>>
>> LET'S HAVE A PARTY!
>
> :-)
>
>
>>
>> It goes all the way
>> from stop to start!
>>
>> A universe away!
>>
>> That's the gulf that
>> few have crossed!
> Thank you for your encouragement.
Your progress has already
encouraged ME greatly!
>> Most people are stopped and stuck.
>> They may talk a lot about how fast
>> they are moving but its all a blur
>> caused by spinning in circles.
>> That's exactly where they have
>> been from day one, and they
>> have no clue they're not
>> moving anywhere at all.
> Seems to be that way - depressing huh! a world of zombies.
YES! When I hear someone screaming:
"Help! I'm dying!" I geat really hexcited!
I GOT A *LIVE* ONE NOW!
WHO KNOWS HE'S ALIVE!
AND WANTS SOME HELP!
I CAN WORK WITH THAT!
>>> I must do more. I did 3 days in Thailand last year -
>>
>> Those are the hardest.
>> Your metabolism is shifting
>> over to ketosis and not eating.
>> It gets easier and more stable
>> after that, if you drink your urine.
> I see - actually I could drink a juice twice a day.
> It seemed to be more my mind I was grappling with rather than hunger.
OK!
Now you know where
the real problem lies!
>>> and my mind did get so clear,
>>
>> Yessence!
>>
>> The clarity and tranquility
>> is hauntingly addictive.
>
> Yes - but not enough yet for me to go through the pain of getting it
> again.
OK! Get it with UCP then!
>>> but the food addiction was strong -confronting the big W-HOLE was
>>> difficult.
>>
>> URINE FASTING IS EASY!
>> I don't water fast now.
> What - you ONLY drink URINE!!! no water at all!
No. I drink water if I want it.
I usually do. I try to drink most
or all of my urine, usually, but
that's not a firm rule. On my
last fast I dumped most of
my urine for a week or so
because it tasted sour and
made me feel queasy.
But then at the end I felt REALLY good
for 5 days or so, much like I wasn't even
fasting, so I was drinking most of it again.
I usually drink water too. I had a mild
headache for a week or so in the middle,
maybe from not drinking enough water.
I don't have firm rules about this.
I was trying to drink all or most of
my urine this last fast, but found
I was forcing myself, thought
about it, and changed my action.
Near the end of a good fast, you don't
really need much of anything. You get
cleaned and balanced enough you don't
need to flush much. So you're hardly
drinking and hardly peeing, and feeling
really good about that, and your self too.
That's when you're likely to *BLISS OUT!*
>>> Fantastic. I wish the chart had a bit moreexplanation though - it is
>>> very crytic to me.
The chart is simple!
Start at the left. Look
at the 1, 2, 4 divisions.
Those are the chart.
Everything else is just
finer and finer refinements
to measure small movements.
Get the latest excel chart from the web site,
read the notes, print it out, and LOOK at it.
LOOK at the chart at the end of your session.
>> So do I!
>>
>> But that's WAY DOWN
>> on the UCPriority list.
> That's a shame. It would be so helpful.
The BEST way to understand the chart
is to take the sElf guided tour. I don't
think you can really understand it
without person hexperience.
>>> The impressions trips left me with penetrated my deepest core -
>>
>> Ooooooh!
>>
>> You went to the GOD place!
> Yep - not everytime but here and there popped through and was left
> spellbound. WOW!!!!
That's enough to get you started
looking and thinking, and maybe
even moving toward that scene.
At least you have the idea that
there might be another option.
Leary and acid moved me
a long way towards ucp.
Until acid, I thought
I was relatively sane.
My picture was stuck.
I didn't even know
there were any
other options.
I thought that's how it was
in the beginning, the middle,
and the end of forever.
ACID SHOWED ME I
DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE!
*WHAT* WAS THAT?
*WHO* WAS ????
*WHY* DOES ????
????
I suddenly had LOTS of
brand new questions,
and NO answers at all.
So I started looking!
*BANG!*
I was off and running!
Directly into trouble!
But that was nothing new,
and now I was looking and
running and seeing sights!
>>> Have you ever read any Christopher Hyatt -Undoing Yourself, Rebels and
>>> Devils,The Psychopaths Bible?
>>
>> Never heard of it, but I *LOVE* the title!
>> That's the kind of bible we NEED for the
>> kind of peope we HAVE: Psychopaths!
>>
>> The bibles we HAVE are for blue
>> haired ladies to quote psalms.
>
> LOL - he would agree!
>
> Thanks for the long reply KP, I enjoyed it immensely. I'll be back
> when I can.
I enjoyed it immensely too!
That's WHY it was so long!
> Richard.
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THANKS FOR POSTING!
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>>NOW DISTRIBUTION<< technology ="=" com=""> wrote:
> Hi KP and ALL,
HI!
>> You're very welcome!
>> I spent 8 or 10 hours on it.
>> It was a wonderful day for me
>> since I found it SO interesting.
>>
>> I've spent another 5 or more?
>> on this round. I'm still SEEING.
> Wow! That's a long time at the computer. I'm on a computer all day as
> it is as I'm a computer programmer so hard sometimes to get back on
> and write long emails.
OK!
>>
>> OK. Keep looking!
>> They are thrillingly
>> easy for me to see!
>Oh! I still feel pretty much the same.
OK!
Is that the same as
"only a little different"
or "a little different"?
What did you expect?
Beam-me-up-stargate?
To a pyramid penthouse?
A LITTLE DIFFERENT IS
THE VERY BEST YOU CAN
REALISTICALLY HEXPECT!
WELCOME TO REALITY!
All the things that are just the same,
you probably haven't looked at very
close yet. The things that are a bit
different AT ALL are a BIG *WIN.*
YOU changed your universe.
You are NOT total effect.
You have some CAUSE!
You exist, AND you are moving!
And even in the right direction!
>Had some insights
YESSENCE!
I see that as *BIG* change.
BEHAVIOR FOLLOWS PERCEPTION.
When you *SEE* things differently
. . . you REACT to them differently!
>but behaviour still pretty much the same.
After you walk a few feet,
you are still pretty much
the same place, if you
don't look carefully
and are willing to think in generalities
instead of looking at the particlular now.
That your behavior is slightly modified
should be the subject of Celebration!
If you can change yourself
a teeny weeny bit for the
better YOU ARE A STAR!
How many
can equal
that feat?
If you can change a little,
you can change a lot.
It's a long journey.
You just started.
YOU MOVED!
WAY COOL!
You're not dead yet!
That separates you
from the zombies!
One tiny motion
completely shifts
you into an entirely
new class: moving!
The quick
rise from
the dead!
BRAVO!
>> I think you were stuck in some valence
>> when you were posting a couple years ago,
> Can you explain valance a bit. I get the impression though and yes I
> was stuck in something, but then my life is a series of being stuck in
> some valances.
valence = identity = role = script:
cowboy, indian, older brother, salesman,
my dad, mother, defiant young hothead,
a "proper" guru . . . watever you like.
Any role you are desperately attached to, or
compulsively opposed to . . . for now at least.
Most people have a few favorite ones they
flop between, in endless cycles of wank.
>> I think you got that valence up to zero . . .
>> Got that zero, +-20, +-40, resonance going.
>>
>> Sat oo the cusp of a valence choice looking,
>> and FOUND YOURSELF where you are now.
>>
>> I've seen it before where you see the
>> social self, the valence the guy believes
>> and projects, get up near zero and then
>> he SEES that's NOT HIM, and that his
>> ACTUAL location is around -40 or so.
>
> Yep!
>
>>
>> You've gotten to a deeper level of him.
>> That's a full circle completion of a small
>> game expanding to a much larger game.
> Deeper level of the social self?
NO!
You trashed your social self!
You gave up trying to find the
perfect social self to pretend to!
You defaulted to the grim truth!
A huge leap ahead! . . .
To see where you are!
>>>> LOOK *AT* THE HUMP!
>>>> *THAT'S* YOUR START!
> Yeah - I did - I did an hour last night.
Hexcellent!
>I'll try to post soon if I can in summary.
OK!
>Was good actually - difficult - the resistance to
> moving and starting is huge to the point of pain -
OK! That's what make's it a hump!
>but I looked and pushed through and did get some insights.
NEW UNDERSTANDING!
As your viewpoint shifts . . .
your behavior follows naturally.
You never have to
force yourself to do
something that is
obvious and seems
quite natural, NOW.
>>> Absolutely. As you said the psychedelics are better. I was not
>>> referring to them. I take GHB - it's has a more alchohol type effect
>>> but without the toxic effects on the body.
>> OK! I don't know that one.
>
> http://www.ceri.com/ghbpage.shtml - a fairly positive view on it.
> Problem is I do find myself with a bit of a dependence on it - I use
> to relax to go to sleep, and other places in place of drink, but,
> although not physically addictive it is phychologically.
Thanks! Now they are making things
illegal before I even hear of them!
>>>>
>>>> BUT *YOU* MOVED!
>>>>
>>>> You KNOW something
>>>> is missing from your
>>>> own life equation.
> Great! :-)
>>>> YOU ARE RISING BY
>>>> YOUR OWN EFFORT!
> Well - that remains to be seen
It does?
It's blindingly obvious to me,
based on your own reports!
You seem to have some
stuck picture that it's "all
the same", and THINK you
must not be moving at all?
Ever felt like that before?
[or however you do feel
about all this right now]
I'm thrilled you are moving!
You are dismayed that
you are not there yet!
When you walk a few steps,
your picture has already
changed quite perceptibly.
You need to look closely
to see where to step next.
Watching that change,
will enable the next.
Compare you now to
a few sessions ago,
and two years ago,
when you posted.
I'm much more interested in
people who are moving than
people at fixed high tone levels.
A guy who keeps moving will
always pass a guy who doe not.
Traveling companions know the path.
Nomads share something the farmers
don't, even if they live at high elevation.
One is a photo . . .
the other a movie!
>but I have some hope.
Hexcellent!
Much better than that,
you have some results!
And new viewpoints!
YOU KNOW HOW
to improve your
own viewpoints.
That's the KEY to
unlock a new you!
>>> I've discovered mostly things are very....
>>> soupy inside! and hard to verbalise!
>>
>> NEW PERCEPTION!
> yes - I have been looking at this one more.
Hexcellent!
>> I say that's a great big deal!
>> ANYTHING *YOU DISCOVER*
>> IS a big deal. Discovering
>> something CONNECTED TO
>> your actual life has obvious
>> potential for real progress.
>> MOVING A LITTLE IS
>> A *VERY* BIG DEAL!
> That is a great way to look at it.
That's what separates
winners from losers.
KEEP MOVING!
KEEP WINNING!
If you just climb
one step at a time,
and keep at it . . .
you get to the top!
THAT'S THE BIGGEST
DEAL THERE IS!
>> Like a steam locomotive,
>> getting started is hardest.
> YEs - like this in everything for me.
OK!
But you already got started!
You just have to keep at it!
YOU ALREADY *WON!*
JUST KEEP WINNING!
>> Once it moves at all, no
>> matter how slowly, it picks
>> up more and more speed, as
>> long as you shovel the coal.
>OR it picks up plateurs and dies -
>the normal pattern - enthusiasm -
>boredom - give up.
YES! That's why I'm SO excited about you.
You already gave up on UCP, several times!
You've been through that pattern several times.
And yet you keep coming back to ucp because
it makes sense and it works. And you were
willing to do the hard work to bypass your
social self and confront your wiped out self.
You kept coming back to him over and over
again, until you KNEW you couldn't deny him.
Congratulations!
That's the one who needs help!
And deserves it for standing up!
When you stopped denying him,
you finally started to help him!
You scraped through all your own crap
about where you thought you were . . .
until you got down to the real dirt!
Congratulations!
Now you can plant a garden
and grow something good!
YOU KNOW SOMETHING!
Even if it's not pleasant!
The unpleasant truths are
often critically important!
And when your bewildered sElf
decided to get in touch with mine
. . . YOUR TIMING WAS *PERFECT!*
We seem to be in sync.
I'm inclined to think you
must be doing something
. . . hextremely b/right!
>I hope this one is not that way -
I think you are past that stage.
Now that know where you are,
you WILL *SEE* your ACTUAL
progress as you move up tone.
Those gains don't vanish.
>I have intention for it not to be -
YESSENCE!
That's one critical difference already!
That's the BIGGEST critical difference!
It's the prime mover for all the others!
And you don't think
you've made progress?
I beg to differ! :-)
LOOK FOR YOURSELF
. . . AT YOURSELF!
>I want to move to next level of
>enthusiasm beyond the initial plateur.
That's HEXACTLY *WHY* I'm so enthusiastic
about your progress already. You've DONE
much heavy lifting to SEE WHERE YOU ARE!
That's a critical milestone!
Now you CAN move fast!
You are above hallucination on the work
to be done to fix yourself up to the kind
of standards that keep getting higher!
Fantastic! You *should* be daunted!
You're not still trying
to prove to yourself
you're perfect already!
It's a good indicator to
be dubious or cautious!
>> One of my teachers was with Leary at Millbrook,
>
> Cool! Leary was a brave pioneer. I have a lot of respect for him.
Yes. I made a point of hearing Tim in LA a few years
before he died, to see if he looked damaged from
all that acid. He had all of his marbles . . . and a
lot he most have won from somebody else too!
> The guy who's book I mentioned owns the publisher that publishes his
> books (www.newfalcon.com)
Cool! I knew one of their writers,
but never actually read his book.
>> and
>> Bagwan in Poona coffee shops before he was famous.
>> I like Bagwan a lot. I've hung out at the Yes Center in
>> LA and done some meditations. I like many Sannyasans.
>> They seem natural for UCP, but are NOT LOOKING for
>> another form of mediation: they have too many now?
>> I don't know how to reach them. PLEASE SHOW ME!
> I will if I see it working for me.
Hexcellent!
Compare yourself . . .
before and after UCP!
Tell me what you see!
>If something works for me I will tell people.
Way Cool!
>I cannot tell people about something
>I have not tested for myself properly.
Perfect! I wouldn't want you to!
It wouldn't likely be convincing!
Your progress is perfect!
That's WHY I'm so happy!
>Also I do not hang out in this community much now.
>Still I know from the people I knew in it they are thirsty for
>something that works.
Hexcellent!
>>> Will do real work to grow. No way near all of them - but enough.
>>
>> Way Cool!
>>
>> Please spread the good news to them!
> I will if it works for me :-)
Just Keep Looking! :-)
>>> Happy birthday UCP ONLINE!!!
>>
>> LET'S HAVE A PARTY!
>
> :-)
>
>
>>
>> It goes all the way
>> from stop to start!
>>
>> A universe away!
>>
>> That's the gulf that
>> few have crossed!
> Thank you for your encouragement.
Your progress has already
encouraged ME greatly!
>> Most people are stopped and stuck.
>> They may talk a lot about how fast
>> they are moving but its all a blur
>> caused by spinning in circles.
>> That's exactly where they have
>> been from day one, and they
>> have no clue they're not
>> moving anywhere at all.
> Seems to be that way - depressing huh! a world of zombies.
YES! When I hear someone screaming:
"Help! I'm dying!" I geat really hexcited!
I GOT A *LIVE* ONE NOW!
WHO KNOWS HE'S ALIVE!
AND WANTS SOME HELP!
I CAN WORK WITH THAT!
>>> I must do more. I did 3 days in Thailand last year -
>>
>> Those are the hardest.
>> Your metabolism is shifting
>> over to ketosis and not eating.
>> It gets easier and more stable
>> after that, if you drink your urine.
> I see - actually I could drink a juice twice a day.
> It seemed to be more my mind I was grappling with rather than hunger.
OK!
Now you know where
the real problem lies!
>>> and my mind did get so clear,
>>
>> Yessence!
>>
>> The clarity and tranquility
>> is hauntingly addictive.
>
> Yes - but not enough yet for me to go through the pain of getting it
> again.
OK! Get it with UCP then!
>>> but the food addiction was strong -confronting the big W-HOLE was
>>> difficult.
>>
>> URINE FASTING IS EASY!
>> I don't water fast now.
> What - you ONLY drink URINE!!! no water at all!
No. I drink water if I want it.
I usually do. I try to drink most
or all of my urine, usually, but
that's not a firm rule. On my
last fast I dumped most of
my urine for a week or so
because it tasted sour and
made me feel queasy.
But then at the end I felt REALLY good
for 5 days or so, much like I wasn't even
fasting, so I was drinking most of it again.
I usually drink water too. I had a mild
headache for a week or so in the middle,
maybe from not drinking enough water.
I don't have firm rules about this.
I was trying to drink all or most of
my urine this last fast, but found
I was forcing myself, thought
about it, and changed my action.
Near the end of a good fast, you don't
really need much of anything. You get
cleaned and balanced enough you don't
need to flush much. So you're hardly
drinking and hardly peeing, and feeling
really good about that, and your self too.
That's when you're likely to *BLISS OUT!*
>>> Fantastic. I wish the chart had a bit moreexplanation though - it is
>>> very crytic to me.
The chart is simple!
Start at the left. Look
at the 1, 2, 4 divisions.
Those are the chart.
Everything else is just
finer and finer refinements
to measure small movements.
Get the latest excel chart from the web site,
read the notes, print it out, and LOOK at it.
LOOK at the chart at the end of your session.
>> So do I!
>>
>> But that's WAY DOWN
>> on the UCPriority list.
> That's a shame. It would be so helpful.
The BEST way to understand the chart
is to take the sElf guided tour. I don't
think you can really understand it
without person hexperience.
>>> The impressions trips left me with penetrated my deepest core -
>>
>> Ooooooh!
>>
>> You went to the GOD place!
> Yep - not everytime but here and there popped through and was left
> spellbound. WOW!!!!
That's enough to get you started
looking and thinking, and maybe
even moving toward that scene.
At least you have the idea that
there might be another option.
Leary and acid moved me
a long way towards ucp.
Until acid, I thought
I was relatively sane.
My picture was stuck.
I didn't even know
there were any
other options.
I thought that's how it was
in the beginning, the middle,
and the end of forever.
ACID SHOWED ME I
DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE!
*WHAT* WAS THAT?
*WHO* WAS ????
*WHY* DOES ????
????
I suddenly had LOTS of
brand new questions,
and NO answers at all.
So I started looking!
*BANG!*
I was off and running!
Directly into trouble!
But that was nothing new,
and now I was looking and
running and seeing sights!
>>> Have you ever read any Christopher Hyatt -Undoing Yourself, Rebels and
>>> Devils,The Psychopaths Bible?
>>
>> Never heard of it, but I *LOVE* the title!
>> That's the kind of bible we NEED for the
>> kind of peope we HAVE: Psychopaths!
>>
>> The bibles we HAVE are for blue
>> haired ladies to quote psalms.
>
> LOL - he would agree!
>
> Thanks for the long reply KP, I enjoyed it immensely. I'll be back
> when I can.
I enjoyed it immensely too!
That's WHY it was so long!
> Richard.
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THANKS FOR POSTING!
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*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO P'R'E'SENT!
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THE UCPLOT !S THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSC!OUSNESS!
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YOU CAN RA!SE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SP!R!TUAL EVELUTION!
USE THE FREE V!RTUAL W!TNESS ONL!NE NOW!
ONE S!ZE F!TS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
!NQU!RE W!TH!N, ABOUT BECOMING YOURS'ELF!
P!NNACLE PATHS P!TCH PERFECT PER!METERS!
THE PR!ZE PATH !S A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL N-L!GHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODH!SATTVAS
S!NCE THE SECOND M!LLENN!UM
ONE BODH!SATTVA AT A T!ME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
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