Thursday, January 26, 2006
Re: Control - that's what I want!
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>>NOW DISTRIBUTION<< technology ="=" com=""> wrote:
> Hi KP and ALL,
HI!
>> You're very welcome!
>> I spent 8 or 10 hours on it.
>> It was a wonderful day for me
>> since I found it SO interesting.
>>
>> I've spent another 5 or more?
>> on this round. I'm still SEEING.
> Wow! That's a long time at the computer. I'm on a computer all day as
> it is as I'm a computer programmer so hard sometimes to get back on
> and write long emails.
OK!
>>
>> OK. Keep looking!
>> They are thrillingly
>> easy for me to see!
>Oh! I still feel pretty much the same.
OK!
Is that the same as
"only a little different"
or "a little different"?
What did you expect?
Beam-me-up-stargate?
To a pyramid penthouse?
A LITTLE DIFFERENT IS
THE VERY BEST YOU CAN
REALISTICALLY HEXPECT!
WELCOME TO REALITY!
All the things that are just the same,
you probably haven't looked at very
close yet. The things that are a bit
different AT ALL are a BIG *WIN.*
YOU changed your universe.
You are NOT total effect.
You have some CAUSE!
You exist, AND you are moving!
And even in the right direction!
>Had some insights
YESSENCE!
I see that as *BIG* change.
BEHAVIOR FOLLOWS PERCEPTION.
When you *SEE* things differently
. . . you REACT to them differently!
>but behaviour still pretty much the same.
After you walk a few feet,
you are still pretty much
the same place, if you
don't look carefully
and are willing to think in generalities
instead of looking at the particlular now.
That your behavior is slightly modified
should be the subject of Celebration!
If you can change yourself
a teeny weeny bit for the
better YOU ARE A STAR!
How many
can equal
that feat?
If you can change a little,
you can change a lot.
It's a long journey.
You just started.
YOU MOVED!
WAY COOL!
You're not dead yet!
That separates you
from the zombies!
One tiny motion
completely shifts
you into an entirely
new class: moving!
The quick
rise from
the dead!
BRAVO!
>> I think you were stuck in some valence
>> when you were posting a couple years ago,
> Can you explain valance a bit. I get the impression though and yes I
> was stuck in something, but then my life is a series of being stuck in
> some valances.
valence = identity = role = script:
cowboy, indian, older brother, salesman,
my dad, mother, defiant young hothead,
a "proper" guru . . . watever you like.
Any role you are desperately attached to, or
compulsively opposed to . . . for now at least.
Most people have a few favorite ones they
flop between, in endless cycles of wank.
>> I think you got that valence up to zero . . .
>> Got that zero, +-20, +-40, resonance going.
>>
>> Sat oo the cusp of a valence choice looking,
>> and FOUND YOURSELF where you are now.
>>
>> I've seen it before where you see the
>> social self, the valence the guy believes
>> and projects, get up near zero and then
>> he SEES that's NOT HIM, and that his
>> ACTUAL location is around -40 or so.
>
> Yep!
>
>>
>> You've gotten to a deeper level of him.
>> That's a full circle completion of a small
>> game expanding to a much larger game.
> Deeper level of the social self?
NO!
You trashed your social self!
You gave up trying to find the
perfect social self to pretend to!
You defaulted to the grim truth!
A huge leap ahead! . . .
To see where you are!
>>>> LOOK *AT* THE HUMP!
>>>> *THAT'S* YOUR START!
> Yeah - I did - I did an hour last night.
Hexcellent!
>I'll try to post soon if I can in summary.
OK!
>Was good actually - difficult - the resistance to
> moving and starting is huge to the point of pain -
OK! That's what make's it a hump!
>but I looked and pushed through and did get some insights.
NEW UNDERSTANDING!
As your viewpoint shifts . . .
your behavior follows naturally.
You never have to
force yourself to do
something that is
obvious and seems
quite natural, NOW.
>>> Absolutely. As you said the psychedelics are better. I was not
>>> referring to them. I take GHB - it's has a more alchohol type effect
>>> but without the toxic effects on the body.
>> OK! I don't know that one.
>
> http://www.ceri.com/ghbpage.shtml - a fairly positive view on it.
> Problem is I do find myself with a bit of a dependence on it - I use
> to relax to go to sleep, and other places in place of drink, but,
> although not physically addictive it is phychologically.
Thanks! Now they are making things
illegal before I even hear of them!
>>>>
>>>> BUT *YOU* MOVED!
>>>>
>>>> You KNOW something
>>>> is missing from your
>>>> own life equation.
> Great! :-)
>>>> YOU ARE RISING BY
>>>> YOUR OWN EFFORT!
> Well - that remains to be seen
It does?
It's blindingly obvious to me,
based on your own reports!
You seem to have some
stuck picture that it's "all
the same", and THINK you
must not be moving at all?
Ever felt like that before?
[or however you do feel
about all this right now]
I'm thrilled you are moving!
You are dismayed that
you are not there yet!
When you walk a few steps,
your picture has already
changed quite perceptibly.
You need to look closely
to see where to step next.
Watching that change,
will enable the next.
Compare you now to
a few sessions ago,
and two years ago,
when you posted.
I'm much more interested in
people who are moving than
people at fixed high tone levels.
A guy who keeps moving will
always pass a guy who doe not.
Traveling companions know the path.
Nomads share something the farmers
don't, even if they live at high elevation.
One is a photo . . .
the other a movie!
>but I have some hope.
Hexcellent!
Much better than that,
you have some results!
And new viewpoints!
YOU KNOW HOW
to improve your
own viewpoints.
That's the KEY to
unlock a new you!
>>> I've discovered mostly things are very....
>>> soupy inside! and hard to verbalise!
>>
>> NEW PERCEPTION!
> yes - I have been looking at this one more.
Hexcellent!
>> I say that's a great big deal!
>> ANYTHING *YOU DISCOVER*
>> IS a big deal. Discovering
>> something CONNECTED TO
>> your actual life has obvious
>> potential for real progress.
>> MOVING A LITTLE IS
>> A *VERY* BIG DEAL!
> That is a great way to look at it.
That's what separates
winners from losers.
KEEP MOVING!
KEEP WINNING!
If you just climb
one step at a time,
and keep at it . . .
you get to the top!
THAT'S THE BIGGEST
DEAL THERE IS!
>> Like a steam locomotive,
>> getting started is hardest.
> YEs - like this in everything for me.
OK!
But you already got started!
You just have to keep at it!
YOU ALREADY *WON!*
JUST KEEP WINNING!
>> Once it moves at all, no
>> matter how slowly, it picks
>> up more and more speed, as
>> long as you shovel the coal.
>OR it picks up plateurs and dies -
>the normal pattern - enthusiasm -
>boredom - give up.
YES! That's why I'm SO excited about you.
You already gave up on UCP, several times!
You've been through that pattern several times.
And yet you keep coming back to ucp because
it makes sense and it works. And you were
willing to do the hard work to bypass your
social self and confront your wiped out self.
You kept coming back to him over and over
again, until you KNEW you couldn't deny him.
Congratulations!
That's the one who needs help!
And deserves it for standing up!
When you stopped denying him,
you finally started to help him!
You scraped through all your own crap
about where you thought you were . . .
until you got down to the real dirt!
Congratulations!
Now you can plant a garden
and grow something good!
YOU KNOW SOMETHING!
Even if it's not pleasant!
The unpleasant truths are
often critically important!
And when your bewildered sElf
decided to get in touch with mine
. . . YOUR TIMING WAS *PERFECT!*
We seem to be in sync.
I'm inclined to think you
must be doing something
. . . hextremely b/right!
>I hope this one is not that way -
I think you are past that stage.
Now that know where you are,
you WILL *SEE* your ACTUAL
progress as you move up tone.
Those gains don't vanish.
>I have intention for it not to be -
YESSENCE!
That's one critical difference already!
That's the BIGGEST critical difference!
It's the prime mover for all the others!
And you don't think
you've made progress?
I beg to differ! :-)
LOOK FOR YOURSELF
. . . AT YOURSELF!
>I want to move to next level of
>enthusiasm beyond the initial plateur.
That's HEXACTLY *WHY* I'm so enthusiastic
about your progress already. You've DONE
much heavy lifting to SEE WHERE YOU ARE!
That's a critical milestone!
Now you CAN move fast!
You are above hallucination on the work
to be done to fix yourself up to the kind
of standards that keep getting higher!
Fantastic! You *should* be daunted!
You're not still trying
to prove to yourself
you're perfect already!
It's a good indicator to
be dubious or cautious!
>> One of my teachers was with Leary at Millbrook,
>
> Cool! Leary was a brave pioneer. I have a lot of respect for him.
Yes. I made a point of hearing Tim in LA a few years
before he died, to see if he looked damaged from
all that acid. He had all of his marbles . . . and a
lot he most have won from somebody else too!
> The guy who's book I mentioned owns the publisher that publishes his
> books (www.newfalcon.com)
Cool! I knew one of their writers,
but never actually read his book.
>> and
>> Bagwan in Poona coffee shops before he was famous.
>> I like Bagwan a lot. I've hung out at the Yes Center in
>> LA and done some meditations. I like many Sannyasans.
>> They seem natural for UCP, but are NOT LOOKING for
>> another form of mediation: they have too many now?
>> I don't know how to reach them. PLEASE SHOW ME!
> I will if I see it working for me.
Hexcellent!
Compare yourself . . .
before and after UCP!
Tell me what you see!
>If something works for me I will tell people.
Way Cool!
>I cannot tell people about something
>I have not tested for myself properly.
Perfect! I wouldn't want you to!
It wouldn't likely be convincing!
Your progress is perfect!
That's WHY I'm so happy!
>Also I do not hang out in this community much now.
>Still I know from the people I knew in it they are thirsty for
>something that works.
Hexcellent!
>>> Will do real work to grow. No way near all of them - but enough.
>>
>> Way Cool!
>>
>> Please spread the good news to them!
> I will if it works for me :-)
Just Keep Looking! :-)
>>> Happy birthday UCP ONLINE!!!
>>
>> LET'S HAVE A PARTY!
>
> :-)
>
>
>>
>> It goes all the way
>> from stop to start!
>>
>> A universe away!
>>
>> That's the gulf that
>> few have crossed!
> Thank you for your encouragement.
Your progress has already
encouraged ME greatly!
>> Most people are stopped and stuck.
>> They may talk a lot about how fast
>> they are moving but its all a blur
>> caused by spinning in circles.
>> That's exactly where they have
>> been from day one, and they
>> have no clue they're not
>> moving anywhere at all.
> Seems to be that way - depressing huh! a world of zombies.
YES! When I hear someone screaming:
"Help! I'm dying!" I geat really hexcited!
I GOT A *LIVE* ONE NOW!
WHO KNOWS HE'S ALIVE!
AND WANTS SOME HELP!
I CAN WORK WITH THAT!
>>> I must do more. I did 3 days in Thailand last year -
>>
>> Those are the hardest.
>> Your metabolism is shifting
>> over to ketosis and not eating.
>> It gets easier and more stable
>> after that, if you drink your urine.
> I see - actually I could drink a juice twice a day.
> It seemed to be more my mind I was grappling with rather than hunger.
OK!
Now you know where
the real problem lies!
>>> and my mind did get so clear,
>>
>> Yessence!
>>
>> The clarity and tranquility
>> is hauntingly addictive.
>
> Yes - but not enough yet for me to go through the pain of getting it
> again.
OK! Get it with UCP then!
>>> but the food addiction was strong -confronting the big W-HOLE was
>>> difficult.
>>
>> URINE FASTING IS EASY!
>> I don't water fast now.
> What - you ONLY drink URINE!!! no water at all!
No. I drink water if I want it.
I usually do. I try to drink most
or all of my urine, usually, but
that's not a firm rule. On my
last fast I dumped most of
my urine for a week or so
because it tasted sour and
made me feel queasy.
But then at the end I felt REALLY good
for 5 days or so, much like I wasn't even
fasting, so I was drinking most of it again.
I usually drink water too. I had a mild
headache for a week or so in the middle,
maybe from not drinking enough water.
I don't have firm rules about this.
I was trying to drink all or most of
my urine this last fast, but found
I was forcing myself, thought
about it, and changed my action.
Near the end of a good fast, you don't
really need much of anything. You get
cleaned and balanced enough you don't
need to flush much. So you're hardly
drinking and hardly peeing, and feeling
really good about that, and your self too.
That's when you're likely to *BLISS OUT!*
>>> Fantastic. I wish the chart had a bit moreexplanation though - it is
>>> very crytic to me.
The chart is simple!
Start at the left. Look
at the 1, 2, 4 divisions.
Those are the chart.
Everything else is just
finer and finer refinements
to measure small movements.
Get the latest excel chart from the web site,
read the notes, print it out, and LOOK at it.
LOOK at the chart at the end of your session.
>> So do I!
>>
>> But that's WAY DOWN
>> on the UCPriority list.
> That's a shame. It would be so helpful.
The BEST way to understand the chart
is to take the sElf guided tour. I don't
think you can really understand it
without person hexperience.
>>> The impressions trips left me with penetrated my deepest core -
>>
>> Ooooooh!
>>
>> You went to the GOD place!
> Yep - not everytime but here and there popped through and was left
> spellbound. WOW!!!!
That's enough to get you started
looking and thinking, and maybe
even moving toward that scene.
At least you have the idea that
there might be another option.
Leary and acid moved me
a long way towards ucp.
Until acid, I thought
I was relatively sane.
My picture was stuck.
I didn't even know
there were any
other options.
I thought that's how it was
in the beginning, the middle,
and the end of forever.
ACID SHOWED ME I
DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE!
*WHAT* WAS THAT?
*WHO* WAS ????
*WHY* DOES ????
????
I suddenly had LOTS of
brand new questions,
and NO answers at all.
So I started looking!
*BANG!*
I was off and running!
Directly into trouble!
But that was nothing new,
and now I was looking and
running and seeing sights!
>>> Have you ever read any Christopher Hyatt -Undoing Yourself, Rebels and
>>> Devils,The Psychopaths Bible?
>>
>> Never heard of it, but I *LOVE* the title!
>> That's the kind of bible we NEED for the
>> kind of peope we HAVE: Psychopaths!
>>
>> The bibles we HAVE are for blue
>> haired ladies to quote psalms.
>
> LOL - he would agree!
>
> Thanks for the long reply KP, I enjoyed it immensely. I'll be back
> when I can.
I enjoyed it immensely too!
That's WHY it was so long!
> Richard.
THANKS FOR PLAYING!
THANKS FOR POSTING!
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>>NOW DISTRIBUTION<< technology ="=" com=""> wrote:
> Hi KP and ALL,
HI!
>> You're very welcome!
>> I spent 8 or 10 hours on it.
>> It was a wonderful day for me
>> since I found it SO interesting.
>>
>> I've spent another 5 or more?
>> on this round. I'm still SEEING.
> Wow! That's a long time at the computer. I'm on a computer all day as
> it is as I'm a computer programmer so hard sometimes to get back on
> and write long emails.
OK!
>>
>> OK. Keep looking!
>> They are thrillingly
>> easy for me to see!
>Oh! I still feel pretty much the same.
OK!
Is that the same as
"only a little different"
or "a little different"?
What did you expect?
Beam-me-up-stargate?
To a pyramid penthouse?
A LITTLE DIFFERENT IS
THE VERY BEST YOU CAN
REALISTICALLY HEXPECT!
WELCOME TO REALITY!
All the things that are just the same,
you probably haven't looked at very
close yet. The things that are a bit
different AT ALL are a BIG *WIN.*
YOU changed your universe.
You are NOT total effect.
You have some CAUSE!
You exist, AND you are moving!
And even in the right direction!
>Had some insights
YESSENCE!
I see that as *BIG* change.
BEHAVIOR FOLLOWS PERCEPTION.
When you *SEE* things differently
. . . you REACT to them differently!
>but behaviour still pretty much the same.
After you walk a few feet,
you are still pretty much
the same place, if you
don't look carefully
and are willing to think in generalities
instead of looking at the particlular now.
That your behavior is slightly modified
should be the subject of Celebration!
If you can change yourself
a teeny weeny bit for the
better YOU ARE A STAR!
How many
can equal
that feat?
If you can change a little,
you can change a lot.
It's a long journey.
You just started.
YOU MOVED!
WAY COOL!
You're not dead yet!
That separates you
from the zombies!
One tiny motion
completely shifts
you into an entirely
new class: moving!
The quick
rise from
the dead!
BRAVO!
>> I think you were stuck in some valence
>> when you were posting a couple years ago,
> Can you explain valance a bit. I get the impression though and yes I
> was stuck in something, but then my life is a series of being stuck in
> some valances.
valence = identity = role = script:
cowboy, indian, older brother, salesman,
my dad, mother, defiant young hothead,
a "proper" guru . . . watever you like.
Any role you are desperately attached to, or
compulsively opposed to . . . for now at least.
Most people have a few favorite ones they
flop between, in endless cycles of wank.
>> I think you got that valence up to zero . . .
>> Got that zero, +-20, +-40, resonance going.
>>
>> Sat oo the cusp of a valence choice looking,
>> and FOUND YOURSELF where you are now.
>>
>> I've seen it before where you see the
>> social self, the valence the guy believes
>> and projects, get up near zero and then
>> he SEES that's NOT HIM, and that his
>> ACTUAL location is around -40 or so.
>
> Yep!
>
>>
>> You've gotten to a deeper level of him.
>> That's a full circle completion of a small
>> game expanding to a much larger game.
> Deeper level of the social self?
NO!
You trashed your social self!
You gave up trying to find the
perfect social self to pretend to!
You defaulted to the grim truth!
A huge leap ahead! . . .
To see where you are!
>>>> LOOK *AT* THE HUMP!
>>>> *THAT'S* YOUR START!
> Yeah - I did - I did an hour last night.
Hexcellent!
>I'll try to post soon if I can in summary.
OK!
>Was good actually - difficult - the resistance to
> moving and starting is huge to the point of pain -
OK! That's what make's it a hump!
>but I looked and pushed through and did get some insights.
NEW UNDERSTANDING!
As your viewpoint shifts . . .
your behavior follows naturally.
You never have to
force yourself to do
something that is
obvious and seems
quite natural, NOW.
>>> Absolutely. As you said the psychedelics are better. I was not
>>> referring to them. I take GHB - it's has a more alchohol type effect
>>> but without the toxic effects on the body.
>> OK! I don't know that one.
>
> http://www.ceri.com/ghbpage.shtml - a fairly positive view on it.
> Problem is I do find myself with a bit of a dependence on it - I use
> to relax to go to sleep, and other places in place of drink, but,
> although not physically addictive it is phychologically.
Thanks! Now they are making things
illegal before I even hear of them!
>>>>
>>>> BUT *YOU* MOVED!
>>>>
>>>> You KNOW something
>>>> is missing from your
>>>> own life equation.
> Great! :-)
>>>> YOU ARE RISING BY
>>>> YOUR OWN EFFORT!
> Well - that remains to be seen
It does?
It's blindingly obvious to me,
based on your own reports!
You seem to have some
stuck picture that it's "all
the same", and THINK you
must not be moving at all?
Ever felt like that before?
[or however you do feel
about all this right now]
I'm thrilled you are moving!
You are dismayed that
you are not there yet!
When you walk a few steps,
your picture has already
changed quite perceptibly.
You need to look closely
to see where to step next.
Watching that change,
will enable the next.
Compare you now to
a few sessions ago,
and two years ago,
when you posted.
I'm much more interested in
people who are moving than
people at fixed high tone levels.
A guy who keeps moving will
always pass a guy who doe not.
Traveling companions know the path.
Nomads share something the farmers
don't, even if they live at high elevation.
One is a photo . . .
the other a movie!
>but I have some hope.
Hexcellent!
Much better than that,
you have some results!
And new viewpoints!
YOU KNOW HOW
to improve your
own viewpoints.
That's the KEY to
unlock a new you!
>>> I've discovered mostly things are very....
>>> soupy inside! and hard to verbalise!
>>
>> NEW PERCEPTION!
> yes - I have been looking at this one more.
Hexcellent!
>> I say that's a great big deal!
>> ANYTHING *YOU DISCOVER*
>> IS a big deal. Discovering
>> something CONNECTED TO
>> your actual life has obvious
>> potential for real progress.
>> MOVING A LITTLE IS
>> A *VERY* BIG DEAL!
> That is a great way to look at it.
That's what separates
winners from losers.
KEEP MOVING!
KEEP WINNING!
If you just climb
one step at a time,
and keep at it . . .
you get to the top!
THAT'S THE BIGGEST
DEAL THERE IS!
>> Like a steam locomotive,
>> getting started is hardest.
> YEs - like this in everything for me.
OK!
But you already got started!
You just have to keep at it!
YOU ALREADY *WON!*
JUST KEEP WINNING!
>> Once it moves at all, no
>> matter how slowly, it picks
>> up more and more speed, as
>> long as you shovel the coal.
>OR it picks up plateurs and dies -
>the normal pattern - enthusiasm -
>boredom - give up.
YES! That's why I'm SO excited about you.
You already gave up on UCP, several times!
You've been through that pattern several times.
And yet you keep coming back to ucp because
it makes sense and it works. And you were
willing to do the hard work to bypass your
social self and confront your wiped out self.
You kept coming back to him over and over
again, until you KNEW you couldn't deny him.
Congratulations!
That's the one who needs help!
And deserves it for standing up!
When you stopped denying him,
you finally started to help him!
You scraped through all your own crap
about where you thought you were . . .
until you got down to the real dirt!
Congratulations!
Now you can plant a garden
and grow something good!
YOU KNOW SOMETHING!
Even if it's not pleasant!
The unpleasant truths are
often critically important!
And when your bewildered sElf
decided to get in touch with mine
. . . YOUR TIMING WAS *PERFECT!*
We seem to be in sync.
I'm inclined to think you
must be doing something
. . . hextremely b/right!
>I hope this one is not that way -
I think you are past that stage.
Now that know where you are,
you WILL *SEE* your ACTUAL
progress as you move up tone.
Those gains don't vanish.
>I have intention for it not to be -
YESSENCE!
That's one critical difference already!
That's the BIGGEST critical difference!
It's the prime mover for all the others!
And you don't think
you've made progress?
I beg to differ! :-)
LOOK FOR YOURSELF
. . . AT YOURSELF!
>I want to move to next level of
>enthusiasm beyond the initial plateur.
That's HEXACTLY *WHY* I'm so enthusiastic
about your progress already. You've DONE
much heavy lifting to SEE WHERE YOU ARE!
That's a critical milestone!
Now you CAN move fast!
You are above hallucination on the work
to be done to fix yourself up to the kind
of standards that keep getting higher!
Fantastic! You *should* be daunted!
You're not still trying
to prove to yourself
you're perfect already!
It's a good indicator to
be dubious or cautious!
>> One of my teachers was with Leary at Millbrook,
>
> Cool! Leary was a brave pioneer. I have a lot of respect for him.
Yes. I made a point of hearing Tim in LA a few years
before he died, to see if he looked damaged from
all that acid. He had all of his marbles . . . and a
lot he most have won from somebody else too!
> The guy who's book I mentioned owns the publisher that publishes his
> books (www.newfalcon.com)
Cool! I knew one of their writers,
but never actually read his book.
>> and
>> Bagwan in Poona coffee shops before he was famous.
>> I like Bagwan a lot. I've hung out at the Yes Center in
>> LA and done some meditations. I like many Sannyasans.
>> They seem natural for UCP, but are NOT LOOKING for
>> another form of mediation: they have too many now?
>> I don't know how to reach them. PLEASE SHOW ME!
> I will if I see it working for me.
Hexcellent!
Compare yourself . . .
before and after UCP!
Tell me what you see!
>If something works for me I will tell people.
Way Cool!
>I cannot tell people about something
>I have not tested for myself properly.
Perfect! I wouldn't want you to!
It wouldn't likely be convincing!
Your progress is perfect!
That's WHY I'm so happy!
>Also I do not hang out in this community much now.
>Still I know from the people I knew in it they are thirsty for
>something that works.
Hexcellent!
>>> Will do real work to grow. No way near all of them - but enough.
>>
>> Way Cool!
>>
>> Please spread the good news to them!
> I will if it works for me :-)
Just Keep Looking! :-)
>>> Happy birthday UCP ONLINE!!!
>>
>> LET'S HAVE A PARTY!
>
> :-)
>
>
>>
>> It goes all the way
>> from stop to start!
>>
>> A universe away!
>>
>> That's the gulf that
>> few have crossed!
> Thank you for your encouragement.
Your progress has already
encouraged ME greatly!
>> Most people are stopped and stuck.
>> They may talk a lot about how fast
>> they are moving but its all a blur
>> caused by spinning in circles.
>> That's exactly where they have
>> been from day one, and they
>> have no clue they're not
>> moving anywhere at all.
> Seems to be that way - depressing huh! a world of zombies.
YES! When I hear someone screaming:
"Help! I'm dying!" I geat really hexcited!
I GOT A *LIVE* ONE NOW!
WHO KNOWS HE'S ALIVE!
AND WANTS SOME HELP!
I CAN WORK WITH THAT!
>>> I must do more. I did 3 days in Thailand last year -
>>
>> Those are the hardest.
>> Your metabolism is shifting
>> over to ketosis and not eating.
>> It gets easier and more stable
>> after that, if you drink your urine.
> I see - actually I could drink a juice twice a day.
> It seemed to be more my mind I was grappling with rather than hunger.
OK!
Now you know where
the real problem lies!
>>> and my mind did get so clear,
>>
>> Yessence!
>>
>> The clarity and tranquility
>> is hauntingly addictive.
>
> Yes - but not enough yet for me to go through the pain of getting it
> again.
OK! Get it with UCP then!
>>> but the food addiction was strong -confronting the big W-HOLE was
>>> difficult.
>>
>> URINE FASTING IS EASY!
>> I don't water fast now.
> What - you ONLY drink URINE!!! no water at all!
No. I drink water if I want it.
I usually do. I try to drink most
or all of my urine, usually, but
that's not a firm rule. On my
last fast I dumped most of
my urine for a week or so
because it tasted sour and
made me feel queasy.
But then at the end I felt REALLY good
for 5 days or so, much like I wasn't even
fasting, so I was drinking most of it again.
I usually drink water too. I had a mild
headache for a week or so in the middle,
maybe from not drinking enough water.
I don't have firm rules about this.
I was trying to drink all or most of
my urine this last fast, but found
I was forcing myself, thought
about it, and changed my action.
Near the end of a good fast, you don't
really need much of anything. You get
cleaned and balanced enough you don't
need to flush much. So you're hardly
drinking and hardly peeing, and feeling
really good about that, and your self too.
That's when you're likely to *BLISS OUT!*
>>> Fantastic. I wish the chart had a bit moreexplanation though - it is
>>> very crytic to me.
The chart is simple!
Start at the left. Look
at the 1, 2, 4 divisions.
Those are the chart.
Everything else is just
finer and finer refinements
to measure small movements.
Get the latest excel chart from the web site,
read the notes, print it out, and LOOK at it.
LOOK at the chart at the end of your session.
>> So do I!
>>
>> But that's WAY DOWN
>> on the UCPriority list.
> That's a shame. It would be so helpful.
The BEST way to understand the chart
is to take the sElf guided tour. I don't
think you can really understand it
without person hexperience.
>>> The impressions trips left me with penetrated my deepest core -
>>
>> Ooooooh!
>>
>> You went to the GOD place!
> Yep - not everytime but here and there popped through and was left
> spellbound. WOW!!!!
That's enough to get you started
looking and thinking, and maybe
even moving toward that scene.
At least you have the idea that
there might be another option.
Leary and acid moved me
a long way towards ucp.
Until acid, I thought
I was relatively sane.
My picture was stuck.
I didn't even know
there were any
other options.
I thought that's how it was
in the beginning, the middle,
and the end of forever.
ACID SHOWED ME I
DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE!
*WHAT* WAS THAT?
*WHO* WAS ????
*WHY* DOES ????
????
I suddenly had LOTS of
brand new questions,
and NO answers at all.
So I started looking!
*BANG!*
I was off and running!
Directly into trouble!
But that was nothing new,
and now I was looking and
running and seeing sights!
>>> Have you ever read any Christopher Hyatt -Undoing Yourself, Rebels and
>>> Devils,The Psychopaths Bible?
>>
>> Never heard of it, but I *LOVE* the title!
>> That's the kind of bible we NEED for the
>> kind of peope we HAVE: Psychopaths!
>>
>> The bibles we HAVE are for blue
>> haired ladies to quote psalms.
>
> LOL - he would agree!
>
> Thanks for the long reply KP, I enjoyed it immensely. I'll be back
> when I can.
I enjoyed it immensely too!
That's WHY it was so long!
> Richard.
THANKS FOR PLAYING!
THANKS FOR POSTING!
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