Monday, February 06, 2006
Re: phone trauma
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DATE: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 19:04:15 -0800
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THREAD: Re: phone trauma
POSTER: Brahmamurti
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On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 19:04:15 -0800,
Brahmamurti wrote:
> now
> today the phone rang. it was secret number so i couldn't see who it
> was. i was afraid that it might be my mothers x. he used to harrass
> me/us by phoning and then hanging up. police apparently won't do
> anything about... so we changed our numbers and got secret numbers.
> worried about giving the numbers away... what if he would get a hold on
> the numbers? i really couldn't care less for him..... except that he is
> a sicko. he must be really fucked up acting like that. the thing is i'd
> liked to confront him but he won't let me. so it leaves me in a
> position where i want to do something about it but can't. i am left
> with the police and they are passive about it. of course i could devote
> more time to it, track him up, i know where he works, that would be
> easy, and then kill him. he has terrorized many people, even gotten an
> x-alco back on alco. his kids hate him, and are embarassed to be around
> him. who wouldn't be.
SECRECY!
> might be
> tracked him down, killed him with my big knife, turned myself in.
>
> compare
> my life would be over or at least for some time. if i have trouble with
> my life now imagine what i would be like after a number of years in
> prison. in a way he would have won. killing him would be too easy. so
> much tells me that he deserves to die. God knows what else he is guilty
> of. he is pathetic. a robot. compulsively trying to hide all his mess
> and yet will go through much and create even more mess to hide that
> mess. it must be hell for him. very unhappy what else can he be? of
> course he is sadistic takes pleasure in others failures - maybe because
> he resonates through his own failures? is that why people find pleasure
> in others failures? because they can identify themselves with this.. i
> see that i was reluctant to write identify... for a moment i thought it
> was above death but it isn't of course identify is below death. a=b=c
> etc now: they only reason to kill him is to get peace - however in
> prison what is the chance of getting peace? isolation sure but no
> freedom. of course i know killing is not really an option. my lower
> nature would win then the animalistic side of me... the side that does
> because it seems good. what is bad might seem good and what is good
> might seem bad. internal struggle is good but feels bad. ucp is
> struggle for the good. doesn't seem to get anywhere with this.
> felt that before?
> remember having to write an article or something as home work. who
> likes home work? it feels bad but should be good. i didn't choose to go
> to school. they pressured us to do home work. the conditioning into
> slavedom. my back hurts even worse today. could barely put on my socks.
> gave up putting on shoes when i had to go to town. forgot the salt
> eventho it was one of the things i went there to get. back to home
> work. didn't like it. didn't want to do it. wouldn't one benefit more
> if one wants to get something out of it?? freedom? where is it? sure
> they teach that there is something you have to do but they forget to
> teach us how to be free. back to my mothers x. am not going to kill
> him. the programming that is thinking about him when a secret number
> shows up has been done by me. he helped of course - he was the outside
> cause but the inside cause was i.
SECRECY!
> might be
> i overcome thinking about him, it gets experience, something i learned
> from. when i pick up the phone i don't care who it is. i just pick it
> up.
Sounds like you are coming
up out of SECRECY.
> compare
> did i care about phones before. i sure did. didn't really want to be
> called. i couldn't control it and i hated it when people interfered
> with my life when i didn't expect them to. so he hit the bulls eye with
> that stunt. but part of life is that there are some stuff you can't
> control. it is what i need to accept to get on with life. i can't
> control every little bit of my life. Gosh!! that is the reason i don't
> do stuff i want to do. because i can't control it the way i want it
> too. maybe i can learned to control to a greater extent that it is
> comfortable for me but of course if i am not willing to let go and
> watch that game then how can i learn to play it? i do as i always do
> because i can pretend that i am controlling this. so a greater extend
> it is true that i control it but only to a degree that i am comfortable
> with.
Failure at Controlling Bodies
> it is almost like a universal law. like a battery. at minus we have
> abundance of electrons just waiting to plus where the is a lack of
> electrons. or you open a window in one end of the house and a door in
> the other side and it creates a draft because the pressure inside the
> house was small compare to the one outside. or something like that.
>
> it always tries to travel the shortest way or where there is the least
> resistance. so the things i am used to offer the least resistance
> because i know more about these than the other stuff that i would like
> to do and naturally it seems harder to do. well, it is harder because i
> have to learn new things, practice and do - maybe even error and trial
> some... very likely so. the things i already know i know i can do
> them... however they are boring. especially if i know the outcome. i
> try to game it up by making it harder with rules added to them... all
> this to stay content with what i am used to. i know i that am bored
> already and yet try to do something about it... the wrong way.
>
> felt that before?
> don't know - seems to be a new realization
WAY COOL!
> has been
> 6th/7th grade. had a crush on a girl. i would just stare at her from a
> distance. she noticed that i was staring. made fun of me or something
> like that. i wasn't sure what i wanted but i knew that i was in love
> with her for some reason. the other girls with her also made fun but i
> didn't care i just couldn't stop staring. when i by accident got very
> close to her i would not dare look at her. was very shy to. didn't know
> what to do about it. friends gave me suggestions but i was afraid to do
> ti because i didn't know what would happen. aha!
SECRECY?
> compare
> i wanted to control it. from a distance i felt that i could control it.
> if she would have walked over to me and would have hid myself or
> something. or if she would ask me to date her i would have rejected
> that i wanted it. in truth i didn't really know what i wanted from her.
> just that i digged her. now i feel nothing about her. she was just a
> crush at that time. have to intent to seek her up or the others i had a
> crush on.
>
> i see that i have a great need for security. i need to know exactly
> what happens... or rather did. how i feel about it now time will show.
> go ahead and phone me. what do i care? it might be him or it might not
> be him... very unlikely that it is him. why would he care about me now?
> well, he didnt' care about me then or else he wouldn't have done what
> he did. so he might call. be my guest. i have time at this time. it
> would allow me to look at it more closely... it would allow me to
> overcome it. right now i am pretending that i have overcome it but
> probably i haven't. if the phone would ring now it would probably be
> the firm. another thing ican't control. i put myself out there and must
> accept certain things about something like that job. i have to accept
> that they might call me and ask me to do things that i would rather not
> do. i am feeling tired it is getting late.
Coming out of Secrecy?
> might be
> i might have a locked job with the week scheduled. they wouldn't call
> because i have made it clear that i wont do extra unless i ask for it.
> in the free time i have other and more important things to do, work for
> the Misison, do ucp, work on the water car project, learning hebrew or
> whatever language.
>
> compare
> reserves have to put up with getting calls.... it is what reserves do.
> when there is an opening for a scheduled job you can apply for it...
> until then reserves is it. i got a back pain. future: i wouldn't - i
> work out. now: i don't work out - have been thinking about it tho.
> thinking it would be the thing to do - going vegetarian. better for
> body, mind and spirit. future . going to bed when it is needed - now:
> going to bed when i can't keep myself up anymore. now thinking that my
> mothers x knows what he has caused. he likes the attention it gives him
> something - glee? criminal glee? sadism. but also masochism because he
> knows that it is compulsive... he can't help it but it gives him
> something that he thinks he needs. of course he is way below sadism but
> as you know sadism is also present at lower levels than sadism. it is
> only until you get above it that you leave it.
>
> thinking...
>
> looking at it. do i feel compassion for him? he can't help it . it
> must be hell. I feel sorry for him. but i also see that this will have
> to be something to look at more in future sessions. it will help me
> grow.
>
> wow just realized this is about controlling bodies - and needing
> bodies. will have a look at the chart...
Way Cool!
> was thinking about that i wanted to control things or not do them. this
> aligns well with the effort band. needing bodies - don't know about
> this. reminds me of when i didn't want to attend somethinng on my own.
> wanted somebody at my side... i was with somebody and so felt more
> save. when i didn't have somebody - didn't want to go. no reason.
> couldn't find them so no go.
>
> have to sleep. take care - Sal-OM
Your last couple of posts seem
much different to me. They have
more authentic GRIT to them. I
think that reflects coming OUT
of Hallucination. Your horror
is suddenly hextremely real!
Looks like you are coming
out of Secrecy and into
Controlling Bodies!
THANKS FOR PLAYING!
THANKS FOR POSTING!
O
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DATE: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 19:04:15 -0800
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: phone trauma
POSTER: Brahmamurti
REPLY TO: alt.ucp
NEW DISTRIBUTION:
BLOG: blogicalthought.blogspot.com
NEWSGROUPS: alt.ucp,alt.consciousness,alt.meditation,
alt.spiritual.enhancement,alt.religion.scientology,
alt.clearing.technology,alt.self-improve
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On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 19:04:15 -0800,
Brahmamurti
> now
> today the phone rang. it was secret number so i couldn't see who it
> was. i was afraid that it might be my mothers x. he used to harrass
> me/us by phoning and then hanging up. police apparently won't do
> anything about... so we changed our numbers and got secret numbers.
> worried about giving the numbers away... what if he would get a hold on
> the numbers? i really couldn't care less for him..... except that he is
> a sicko. he must be really fucked up acting like that. the thing is i'd
> liked to confront him but he won't let me. so it leaves me in a
> position where i want to do something about it but can't. i am left
> with the police and they are passive about it. of course i could devote
> more time to it, track him up, i know where he works, that would be
> easy, and then kill him. he has terrorized many people, even gotten an
> x-alco back on alco. his kids hate him, and are embarassed to be around
> him. who wouldn't be.
SECRECY!
> might be
> tracked him down, killed him with my big knife, turned myself in.
>
> compare
> my life would be over or at least for some time. if i have trouble with
> my life now imagine what i would be like after a number of years in
> prison. in a way he would have won. killing him would be too easy. so
> much tells me that he deserves to die. God knows what else he is guilty
> of. he is pathetic. a robot. compulsively trying to hide all his mess
> and yet will go through much and create even more mess to hide that
> mess. it must be hell for him. very unhappy what else can he be? of
> course he is sadistic takes pleasure in others failures - maybe because
> he resonates through his own failures? is that why people find pleasure
> in others failures? because they can identify themselves with this.. i
> see that i was reluctant to write identify... for a moment i thought it
> was above death but it isn't of course identify is below death. a=b=c
> etc now: they only reason to kill him is to get peace - however in
> prison what is the chance of getting peace? isolation sure but no
> freedom. of course i know killing is not really an option. my lower
> nature would win then the animalistic side of me... the side that does
> because it seems good. what is bad might seem good and what is good
> might seem bad. internal struggle is good but feels bad. ucp is
> struggle for the good. doesn't seem to get anywhere with this.
> felt that before?
> remember having to write an article or something as home work. who
> likes home work? it feels bad but should be good. i didn't choose to go
> to school. they pressured us to do home work. the conditioning into
> slavedom. my back hurts even worse today. could barely put on my socks.
> gave up putting on shoes when i had to go to town. forgot the salt
> eventho it was one of the things i went there to get. back to home
> work. didn't like it. didn't want to do it. wouldn't one benefit more
> if one wants to get something out of it?? freedom? where is it? sure
> they teach that there is something you have to do but they forget to
> teach us how to be free. back to my mothers x. am not going to kill
> him. the programming that is thinking about him when a secret number
> shows up has been done by me. he helped of course - he was the outside
> cause but the inside cause was i.
SECRECY!
> might be
> i overcome thinking about him, it gets experience, something i learned
> from. when i pick up the phone i don't care who it is. i just pick it
> up.
Sounds like you are coming
up out of SECRECY.
> compare
> did i care about phones before. i sure did. didn't really want to be
> called. i couldn't control it and i hated it when people interfered
> with my life when i didn't expect them to. so he hit the bulls eye with
> that stunt. but part of life is that there are some stuff you can't
> control. it is what i need to accept to get on with life. i can't
> control every little bit of my life. Gosh!! that is the reason i don't
> do stuff i want to do. because i can't control it the way i want it
> too. maybe i can learned to control to a greater extent that it is
> comfortable for me but of course if i am not willing to let go and
> watch that game then how can i learn to play it? i do as i always do
> because i can pretend that i am controlling this. so a greater extend
> it is true that i control it but only to a degree that i am comfortable
> with.
Failure at Controlling Bodies
> it is almost like a universal law. like a battery. at minus we have
> abundance of electrons just waiting to plus where the is a lack of
> electrons. or you open a window in one end of the house and a door in
> the other side and it creates a draft because the pressure inside the
> house was small compare to the one outside. or something like that.
>
> it always tries to travel the shortest way or where there is the least
> resistance. so the things i am used to offer the least resistance
> because i know more about these than the other stuff that i would like
> to do and naturally it seems harder to do. well, it is harder because i
> have to learn new things, practice and do - maybe even error and trial
> some... very likely so. the things i already know i know i can do
> them... however they are boring. especially if i know the outcome. i
> try to game it up by making it harder with rules added to them... all
> this to stay content with what i am used to. i know i that am bored
> already and yet try to do something about it... the wrong way.
>
> felt that before?
> don't know - seems to be a new realization
WAY COOL!
> has been
> 6th/7th grade. had a crush on a girl. i would just stare at her from a
> distance. she noticed that i was staring. made fun of me or something
> like that. i wasn't sure what i wanted but i knew that i was in love
> with her for some reason. the other girls with her also made fun but i
> didn't care i just couldn't stop staring. when i by accident got very
> close to her i would not dare look at her. was very shy to. didn't know
> what to do about it. friends gave me suggestions but i was afraid to do
> ti because i didn't know what would happen. aha!
SECRECY?
> compare
> i wanted to control it. from a distance i felt that i could control it.
> if she would have walked over to me and would have hid myself or
> something. or if she would ask me to date her i would have rejected
> that i wanted it. in truth i didn't really know what i wanted from her.
> just that i digged her. now i feel nothing about her. she was just a
> crush at that time. have to intent to seek her up or the others i had a
> crush on.
>
> i see that i have a great need for security. i need to know exactly
> what happens... or rather did. how i feel about it now time will show.
> go ahead and phone me. what do i care? it might be him or it might not
> be him... very unlikely that it is him. why would he care about me now?
> well, he didnt' care about me then or else he wouldn't have done what
> he did. so he might call. be my guest. i have time at this time. it
> would allow me to look at it more closely... it would allow me to
> overcome it. right now i am pretending that i have overcome it but
> probably i haven't. if the phone would ring now it would probably be
> the firm. another thing ican't control. i put myself out there and must
> accept certain things about something like that job. i have to accept
> that they might call me and ask me to do things that i would rather not
> do. i am feeling tired it is getting late.
Coming out of Secrecy?
> might be
> i might have a locked job with the week scheduled. they wouldn't call
> because i have made it clear that i wont do extra unless i ask for it.
> in the free time i have other and more important things to do, work for
> the Misison, do ucp, work on the water car project, learning hebrew or
> whatever language.
>
> compare
> reserves have to put up with getting calls.... it is what reserves do.
> when there is an opening for a scheduled job you can apply for it...
> until then reserves is it. i got a back pain. future: i wouldn't - i
> work out. now: i don't work out - have been thinking about it tho.
> thinking it would be the thing to do - going vegetarian. better for
> body, mind and spirit. future . going to bed when it is needed - now:
> going to bed when i can't keep myself up anymore. now thinking that my
> mothers x knows what he has caused. he likes the attention it gives him
> something - glee? criminal glee? sadism. but also masochism because he
> knows that it is compulsive... he can't help it but it gives him
> something that he thinks he needs. of course he is way below sadism but
> as you know sadism is also present at lower levels than sadism. it is
> only until you get above it that you leave it.
>
> thinking...
>
> looking at it. do i feel compassion for him? he can't help it . it
> must be hell. I feel sorry for him. but i also see that this will have
> to be something to look at more in future sessions. it will help me
> grow.
>
> wow just realized this is about controlling bodies - and needing
> bodies. will have a look at the chart...
Way Cool!
> was thinking about that i wanted to control things or not do them. this
> aligns well with the effort band. needing bodies - don't know about
> this. reminds me of when i didn't want to attend somethinng on my own.
> wanted somebody at my side... i was with somebody and so felt more
> save. when i didn't have somebody - didn't want to go. no reason.
> couldn't find them so no go.
>
> have to sleep. take care - Sal-OM
Your last couple of posts seem
much different to me. They have
more authentic GRIT to them. I
think that reflects coming OUT
of Hallucination. Your horror
is suddenly hextremely real!
Looks like you are coming
out of Secrecy and into
Controlling Bodies!
THANKS FOR PLAYING!
THANKS FOR POSTING!
O
--- )
\
KONCHOK PENDAY
KP@net-prophet.net = email
http://net-prophet.net/ = website
alt.ucp = the ucp usenet newsgroup
blogicalthought.blogspot.com = blog
INTEGRATOR: Universal Conscious Plot:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
N-L!GHTENMENT! . . . R!GHT! . . . *NOW!*
*TOTALLY FREE!* @ http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
Unmoderated public usenet newsgroup = alt.ucp
*DO* THE UN!VERSAL CONSC!OUS PRACT!CE!
*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO P'R'E'SENT!
UCP !S THE *CRUX* OF RAT!ONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT !S THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSC!OUSNESS!
alt.ucp = THE UN!VERS!TY OF CONSC!OUSNESS!
YOU CAN RA!SE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SP!R!TUAL EVELUTION!
USE THE FREE V!RTUAL W!TNESS ONL!NE NOW!
ONE S!ZE F!TS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
!NQU!RE W!TH!N, ABOUT BECOMING YOURS'ELF!
P!NNACLE PATHS P!TCH PERFECT PER!METERS!
THE PR!ZE PATH !S A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL N-L!GHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODH!SATTVAS
S!NCE THE SECOND M!LLENN!UM
ONE BODH!SATTVA AT A T!ME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
alt.ucp posting history online at google.com . . .
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-
1&as_ugroup=alt.ucp&lr=&num=100&hl=en
LET'S ALL GO SANE RIGHT NOW!
TO $*ELF FUN*D KP'S MAD GAME:
$END $ TO KP@net-prophet.net
VIA paypal.com . . . and DO UCP!
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Re: KP2006FEB03
PRIOR POST PROFILE:
DATE: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:35:58 -0800,
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: KP2006FEB03
POSTER: Brahmamurti
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Re: KP2006FEB03
On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:35:58 -0800,
Brahmamurti wrote:
. . . snip old header . . .
>> KP2006FEB03
>>
>> 10:39 NOW
>> resolving.
>> been busy the last few days.
>> got in two sessions in two days,
>> which is a record for me lately,
>> then doing stuff for a couple
>> of days. I was busy playing
>> and didn't miss it,
>> though I was also spending
>> time sitting at my mind and
>> happily imagining places I
>> might well happily be soon.
>>
>> Lots of attention on the CSS group . . .
>> http://www.centerforsacredsciences.org/
>> I was very impressed by the congregation:
>> quiet, polite, focused, intent . . . but also
>> relaxed, undogmatic, and ready to laugh.
>>
>> My perception is that Joel and his group
>> are functioning well above death in their
>> collective self-improvement endeavor.
>>
>> They don't have any attention wrapped
>> up in symbols or rituals, which is quite
>> refreshing.
Brahmamurti wrote:
> They have symbols on their web site of some of the religions and some
> of the mystical paths as well. So saying that they don't have any
> attention wrapped up in symbols would be a lie or am I missing a point
> here?
They have one banner hanging on a side wall
in their meeting room with a buffect of images
from the religions whose mystics they study.
There doesn't seem to be much attention on it.
There are no formal symbolic robes or vestments.
Joel wears clean and neat blue jeans, and a mexican
serape. In the front of the room, where Joel stands
there are a couple of small tables. On what would be
the altar position in a church is a small cardboard box
with a white card taped on it reading "Lost and Found"
in hand lettered magic marker. I wrote more about
them but teranews won't post now. Later with this.
>I am not lecturing mind you simply pointing to something which
> obviously seems not to be true at all. Of course you were at their
> meeting. I wasn't. Maybe this is where you got the idea?
Yes.
The meeting room and the meeting agenda
are conspicuously symbol and ritual free
compared to most spiritual practices.
They are aware of this and Joel talked
about it in passing. It's helpful for
some things but more work.
You aren't guided by tradition,
you have to make your own way.
> They don't squeeze you for
>> money at the meeting. I read around a
>> lot of their web site. I really like most of
>> it. Their sad confusion about quantum
>> mechanics can hexpectantly be rectified
>> as they seem willing to communicate, as
>> time and circumstances permit. I don't
>> know if they are looking for new sElf
>> understanding techniques, but they are
>> openly soliciting for new world views,
>> of which I happily have some to share!
>>
>> I certainly plan to offer them the opportunity to
>> compare the UCP viewpoint, practice, and results
>> with their mystical common denomination actions.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> It really excites me that they are interested in physics!
>> Their webmaster is a physicist, and Joel is very well
>> versed in physics: he corrected me when I mistated
>> a Heisenberg idea to Schroedinger. Of course, they
>> have not encountered Rado's aetheric triuimph yet.
>>
>> Meditation is the key to understanding the inner world.
>> Physics is the key to understanding the hexterior world.
>
> interesting.
>
>> I'm looking forward to fostering and enjoying their
>>
>> *SURPRISE!* when their pennies drop into their
>>
>> WISHING *WELL!* of immediate gratification!
That scenario looks much farther away
than it did before more communication
revealed one physicist speaks for all.
>> 11:11 I have the same sense of eager anticipation
>> I did in the minutes I was hexpecting Sir Richard to
>> come to the party. The telepathic resonance was
>> ringing very loud before the telephone chimed in.
Update:
there is less resonance than I hoped,
but still far more than I usually find.
>> It keeps occurring to me that I've been around
>> this town for a long time looking for aware people.
>> I went to the UU, the Unity and the SOM church.
> Some church?
Science of Mind, founded by Ernest Holmes
>> I met a lot of interesting aware people, but none
>> that were open to ideas they didn't already have.
> Most people are comfortable where they are. They don't want to change
> when they can pretend just fine that they are just fine.
Yes. But these people really
are working on themselves,
and showing obvious clarity.
They are getting results now!
That's a big deal here + now!
>> So far these people seem more open to dialog.
>> I'm enjoying them so far, and hexpect more play.
>>
>> I've had my attention on another resonance too:
>> http://www.nomorehoaxes.com/ by George Green.
>> His Handbook for the New Paradigm article was
>> quite interesting. It's the start of a FREE book,
>> which they sent me in a couple of days! I got a
>> similar feeling reading the Course in Miracles.
>> At least another place to compare my now to!
> What feeling did you get reading the Course of Miracles?
I curious sense of . . .
impersonal detachment?
I don't have good words for it.
I enjoyed it. It was quite interesting.
Not sure I want to stay there forever.
> Are feelings your progress gauge?
YESSENCE!
The UCPlot is the hierarchy of feelings.
But in this case the feeling was
more of a clue to investigation,
which I haven't done closely.
That was 20 plus years ago.
>> I wonder if these new communication resonances
>> have come into my universe because I stopped
>> INTERFERING with Communication TO ME from
>> the YOUniverse at large? There's a Thought!
>>
>> 11:27
>>
>> reread session 11:34
>>
>> It's curious to me that I found two organizations
>> offering free information on awarenesss . . .
> Make that three: www.maitreya.org
Yes, of course. There are many such.
These were new ones arriving to me.
I was looking at why I noticed something
that had been in my environment before,
but had been invisible to me. Why now?
>> Gosh! That's similar to how UCP operates! . . .
>>
>> while working on getting my own personal tone
>> level up to Communication. I wonder if this is
>> because I stopped withholding some personal
>> reality + comm from the world at large lately?
>>
>> I used to try to keep my person viewpoints
>> separate from my ucp teacher viewpoint,
>> but they seem to have collapsed recently
>> when Richard came to my party and I
>> decided to move the party here as
>> much as possible from now on.
>>
>> Or maybe it's just mORe
>> MYstical coincidence! :-)
>>
>> I KNOW HOW TO
>> TEST I*T AGAIN!
>>
>> 11:41
>>
>> thought I was done!
>> seemed like nice full circle!
>> something else lurking?
>>
>> 11:45
>>
>> Ah Yes! Now I see it!
>>
>> I'm comparing Joel's scene
>> with my ideal scene for me.
>>
>> They've got quite an Apollonian
>> Ideal Scene already established.
>> Their places feels like the temple
>> it is. It's got that Buddhist-temple
>> feel to it, because of the awareness
>> of the people there.
>>
>> That's Way Cool!
>>
>> I AM APOLLO!
>>
>> I AM DIONYSIS TOO!
>>
>> I want to keep
>> us both happy!
>>
>>
>>
>> something about
>> integrating them?
>>
>> rereading 12:06
>>
>>
>>
>> Thinking about court case
>> re my retreat land
>> that's my best
>> long term possibility for
>> my dionysiac family.
>>
>>
>> of apollonian individuals
>> melting into dionysiac
>> conscious chaos of
>> my fantasy family.
>>
>>
>>
>> If a couple of UCP sessions have
>> brought me this much change
>> already . . . I'll do more soon!
> You seem surprised
Pleasantly!
I've done a lot of HARD sessions,
and these seemed rather easy,
yet seemed to change things.
It was more effort getting
myself into session than
it was doing the session
in some ways, though in
others the session was
still hard. I don't like
. . . change that . . .
yawning and fuzzing out
and knot knowing what
is coming up next . . .
I DO LIKE IT!
WHEN I come out of it
with a smile on my face
and a new understanding
I guess I could get used
to life being easier if I
had know other choice.
It might take a lot of practice,
but I might be willing to do that
as long as it was easy enough.
>> what?
>>
>> 12:16
>>
>> I think I full circled . . .
>> but I'm still
>>
>>
>>
>> something to do with how
>> CSS and UCP relate . . .
>>
>>
>>
>> That depends on them
>> as well as me. We''ll See!
>>
>>
>>
>> ???? Don't seem to be able
>> to finish this session. Attention
>> stuck on something. still yawns.
>>
>> Thinking about finishing things.
>>
>> Not wanting or not able to finish.
>> If you do, that kills the game.
>>
>> Wanting to KEEP PLAYING.
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe I'm AFRAID of Knowing
>> because it will SPoil my GAME!
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe I'm afraid that if I know,
>> I will know that I will lose, and
>> then I won't want to play.
> But it would allow you put attention on things that you can win. If
> you'd know what doesn't work you might be able to know what would work.
Agreed!
>>
>>
>> Well that's good!
>>
>> I should stop playing
>> that losing game so
>>
>> I CAN WIN ANOTHER!
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm looking forward to
>> more dialog with Joel
>> and the CSS members.
>>
>> They are obviously
>> doing something
>> hextremely right.
>>
>> COMPARING TO UCP
>> will be very revealing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Trying to Finish vs.
>> Trying not to Finish
>>
>> As in wanting to win,
>> but the game play on,
>>
>> as in writing music.
>> I want the symphony
>> to go on and on
>> forever
>>
>> and I also need it to end
>>
>> it's like tantric sex
>> it feels so good
>> you want it to
>> go on forever
> there is more to tantra than sex.
Sure!
There's much more to
dining than to eating.
There's much more to
sharing than to using!
> Here is a quote from a Satsang with
> Maitreya(http://www.maitreya.org/FILES/Feast/Lectures/3rd-seal_sacrifice.htm):
> 'There are two paths, the path of yoga and the path of tantra. The path
> of yoga is to avoid. It means discipline, to avoid it. You say, "I am
> not going to do these things because of the way they affect me."
OK!
But that's obviously being
a macoshist effect of them!
By saying never, you
only create forever.
>But the path of tantra is to go through it and see the triviality of it.
OK!
Life is trivial
to the dead.
I think the challenge of LIFE
is to integrate the Apollonian
awareness of contemplation with
the Dionysiac abandonment of self.
I understand that happens in
meditation iself, but I talking about
also reflecting that in REAL LIFE.
My ideal scene would be a monthly
community rhythm which waxed and
waned with the moon. Party during
the full moon and meditate in new.
>You understand, "What good did this do me?"
MY NOW WAS WOW!
Better Memories Through
Fabulous Sexperiences!
>For instance, "Do I have to
>watch television for such a long time,
>or do I have to go through this
> desire that I have?"
No you don't. You don't have to live.
>You come out of it and you say, "So what? That
> didn't satisfy me. That wasn't it.
>It was not permanent, it was temporary."'
Life is temporary.
Enjoy it now,
when you can.
After we are dead
we can celebrate
the triviality of life!
THANKS FOR WRITING!
O
--- )
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>> and you also
>> really want
>> to come
>>
>> APOLLO and DIONYSIS
>> in their interraction,
>> usually oscillate
>> from pole to
>> pole shIFt.
>>
>> I guess in non-duality they
>> would both be coming forever
>> in the eternal silent stillness?
>>
>> ????
>>
>> I guess I could
>> make do with that
>>
>> if it was my
>> only choice!
>>
>> Time will tell
>> Will what to
>>
>> DO NOW!
>> I'M DONE!
>>
>> ANOTHER STEP CLOSER!
>>
>> 1:03 edit + format 1:16
>>
>> 2:37 total this session
>>
>> THANKS FOR READING!
>
> Thanks for sharing. Good to see you do UCP.
>
>>
>> O
>> --- )
>> \
>>
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DATE: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:35:58 -0800,
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POSTER: Brahmamurti
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Re: KP2006FEB03
On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:35:58 -0800,
Brahmamurti
. . . snip old header . . .
>> KP2006FEB03
>>
>> 10:39 NOW
>>
>> been busy the last few days.
>> got in two sessions in two days,
>> which is a record for me lately,
>> then doing stuff for a couple
>> of days. I was busy playing
>>
>> though I was also spending
>> time sitting at my mind and
>> happily imagining places I
>> might well happily be soon.
>>
>> Lots of attention on the CSS group . . .
>> http://www.centerforsacredsciences.org/
>> I was very impressed by the congregation:
>> quiet, polite, focused, intent . . . but also
>> relaxed, undogmatic, and ready to laugh.
>>
>> My perception is that Joel and his group
>> are functioning well above death in their
>> collective self-improvement endeavor.
>>
>> They don't have any attention wrapped
>> up in symbols or rituals, which is quite
>> refreshing.
Brahmamurti
> They have symbols on their web site of some of the religions and some
> of the mystical paths as well. So saying that they don't have any
> attention wrapped up in symbols would be a lie or am I missing a point
> here?
They have one banner hanging on a side wall
in their meeting room with a buffect of images
from the religions whose mystics they study.
There doesn't seem to be much attention on it.
There are no formal symbolic robes or vestments.
Joel wears clean and neat blue jeans, and a mexican
serape. In the front of the room, where Joel stands
there are a couple of small tables. On what would be
the altar position in a church is a small cardboard box
with a white card taped on it reading "Lost and Found"
in hand lettered magic marker. I wrote more about
them but teranews won't post now. Later with this.
>I am not lecturing mind you simply pointing to something which
> obviously seems not to be true at all. Of course you were at their
> meeting. I wasn't. Maybe this is where you got the idea?
Yes.
The meeting room and the meeting agenda
are conspicuously symbol and ritual free
compared to most spiritual practices.
They are aware of this and Joel talked
about it in passing. It's helpful for
some things but more work.
You aren't guided by tradition,
you have to make your own way.
> They don't squeeze you for
>> money at the meeting. I read around a
>> lot of their web site. I really like most of
>> it. Their sad confusion about quantum
>> mechanics can hexpectantly be rectified
>> as they seem willing to communicate, as
>> time and circumstances permit. I don't
>> know if they are looking for new sElf
>> understanding techniques, but they are
>> openly soliciting for new world views,
>> of which I happily have some to share!
>>
>> I certainly plan to offer them the opportunity to
>> compare the UCP viewpoint, practice, and results
>> with their mystical common denomination actions.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> It really excites me that they are interested in physics!
>> Their webmaster is a physicist, and Joel is very well
>> versed in physics: he corrected me when I mistated
>> a Heisenberg idea to Schroedinger. Of course, they
>> have not encountered Rado's aetheric triuimph yet.
>>
>> Meditation is the key to understanding the inner world.
>> Physics is the key to understanding the hexterior world.
>
> interesting.
>
>> I'm looking forward to fostering and enjoying their
>>
>> *SURPRISE!* when their pennies drop into their
>>
>> WISHING *WELL!* of immediate gratification!
That scenario looks much farther away
than it did before more communication
revealed one physicist speaks for all.
>> 11:11 I have the same sense of eager anticipation
>> I did in the minutes I was hexpecting Sir Richard to
>> come to the party. The telepathic resonance was
>> ringing very loud before the telephone chimed in.
Update:
there is less resonance than I hoped,
but still far more than I usually find.
>> It keeps occurring to me that I've been around
>> this town for a long time looking for aware people.
>> I went to the UU, the Unity and the SOM church.
> Some church?
Science of Mind, founded by Ernest Holmes
>> I met a lot of interesting aware people, but none
>> that were open to ideas they didn't already have.
> Most people are comfortable where they are. They don't want to change
> when they can pretend just fine that they are just fine.
Yes. But these people really
are working on themselves,
and showing obvious clarity.
They are getting results now!
That's a big deal here + now!
>> So far these people seem more open to dialog.
>> I'm enjoying them so far, and hexpect more play.
>>
>> I've had my attention on another resonance too:
>> http://www.nomorehoaxes.com/ by George Green.
>> His Handbook for the New Paradigm article was
>> quite interesting. It's the start of a FREE book,
>> which they sent me in a couple of days! I got a
>> similar feeling reading the Course in Miracles.
>> At least another place to compare my now to!
> What feeling did you get reading the Course of Miracles?
I curious sense of . . .
impersonal detachment?
I don't have good words for it.
I enjoyed it. It was quite interesting.
Not sure I want to stay there forever.
> Are feelings your progress gauge?
YESSENCE!
The UCPlot is the hierarchy of feelings.
But in this case the feeling was
more of a clue to investigation,
which I haven't done closely.
That was 20 plus years ago.
>> I wonder if these new communication resonances
>> have come into my universe because I stopped
>> INTERFERING with Communication TO ME from
>> the YOUniverse at large? There's a Thought!
>>
>> 11:27
>>
>> reread session 11:34
>>
>> It's curious to me that I found two organizations
>> offering free information on awarenesss . . .
> Make that three: www.maitreya.org
Yes, of course. There are many such.
These were new ones arriving to me.
I was looking at why I noticed something
that had been in my environment before,
but had been invisible to me. Why now?
>> Gosh! That's similar to how UCP operates! . . .
>>
>> while working on getting my own personal tone
>> level up to Communication. I wonder if this is
>> because I stopped withholding some personal
>> reality + comm from the world at large lately?
>>
>> I used to try to keep my person viewpoints
>> separate from my ucp teacher viewpoint,
>> but they seem to have collapsed recently
>> when Richard came to my party and I
>> decided to move the party here as
>> much as possible from now on.
>>
>> Or maybe it's just mORe
>> MYstical coincidence! :-)
>>
>> I KNOW HOW TO
>> TEST I*T AGAIN!
>>
>> 11:41
>>
>>
>> seemed like nice full circle!
>> something else lurking?
>>
>>
>>
>> Ah Yes! Now I see it!
>>
>> I'm comparing Joel's scene
>> with my ideal scene for me.
>>
>> They've got quite an Apollonian
>> Ideal Scene already established.
>> Their places feels like the temple
>> it is. It's got that Buddhist-temple
>> feel to it, because of the awareness
>> of the people there.
>>
>> That's Way Cool!
>>
>> I AM APOLLO!
>>
>> I AM DIONYSIS TOO!
>>
>> I want to keep
>> us both happy!
>>
>>
>>
>> something about
>> integrating them?
>>
>> rereading
>>
>>
>>
>> Thinking about court case
>>
>>
>> long term possibility for
>> my dionysiac family.
>>
>>
>> of apollonian individuals
>> melting into dionysiac
>> conscious chaos of
>> my fantasy family.
>>
>>
>>
>> If a couple of UCP sessions have
>> brought me this much change
>> already . . . I'll do more soon!
> You seem surprised
Pleasantly!
I've done a lot of HARD sessions,
and these seemed rather easy,
yet seemed to change things.
It was more effort getting
myself into session than
it was doing the session
in some ways, though in
others the session was
still hard. I don't like
. . . change that . . .
yawning and fuzzing out
and knot knowing what
is coming up next . . .
I DO LIKE IT!
WHEN I come out of it
with a smile on my face
and a new understanding
I guess I could get used
to life being easier if I
had know other choice.
It might take a lot of practice,
but I might be willing to do that
as long as it was easy enough.
>>
>>
>> 12:16
>>
>> I think I full circled . . .
>> but I'm still
>>
>>
>>
>> something to do with how
>> CSS and UCP relate . . .
>>
>>
>>
>> That depends on them
>> as well as me. We''ll See!
>>
>>
>>
>> ???? Don't seem to be able
>> to finish this session. Attention
>> stuck on something. still yawns.
>>
>> Thinking about finishing things.
>>
>> Not wanting or not able to finish.
>> If you do, that kills the game.
>>
>> Wanting to KEEP PLAYING.
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe I'm AFRAID of Knowing
>> because it will SPoil my GAME!
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe I'm afraid that if I know,
>> I will know that I will lose, and
>> then I won't want to play.
> But it would allow you put attention on things that you can win. If
> you'd know what doesn't work you might be able to know what would work.
Agreed!
>>
>>
>> Well that's good!
>>
>> I should stop playing
>> that losing game so
>>
>> I CAN WIN ANOTHER!
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm looking forward to
>> more dialog with Joel
>> and the CSS members.
>>
>> They are obviously
>> doing something
>> hextremely right.
>>
>> COMPARING TO UCP
>> will be very revealing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Trying to Finish vs.
>> Trying not to Finish
>>
>> As in wanting to win,
>> but the game play on,
>>
>> as in writing music.
>> I want the symphony
>> to go on and on
>> forever
>>
>> and I also need it to end
>>
>> it's like tantric sex
>> it feels so good
>> you want it to
>> go on forever
> there is more to tantra than sex.
Sure!
There's much more to
dining than to eating.
There's much more to
sharing than to using!
> Here is a quote from a Satsang with
> Maitreya(http://www.maitreya.org/FILES/Feast/Lectures/3rd-seal_sacrifice.htm):
> 'There are two paths, the path of yoga and the path of tantra. The path
> of yoga is to avoid. It means discipline, to avoid it. You say, "I am
> not going to do these things because of the way they affect me."
OK!
But that's obviously being
a macoshist effect of them!
By saying never, you
only create forever.
>But the path of tantra is to go through it and see the triviality of it.
OK!
Life is trivial
to the dead.
I think the challenge of LIFE
is to integrate the Apollonian
awareness of contemplation with
the Dionysiac abandonment of self.
I understand that happens in
meditation iself, but I talking about
also reflecting that in REAL LIFE.
My ideal scene would be a monthly
community rhythm which waxed and
waned with the moon. Party during
the full moon and meditate in new.
>You understand, "What good did this do me?"
MY NOW WAS WOW!
Better Memories Through
Fabulous Sexperiences!
>For instance, "Do I have to
>watch television for such a long time,
>or do I have to go through this
> desire that I have?"
No you don't. You don't have to live.
>You come out of it and you say, "So what? That
> didn't satisfy me. That wasn't it.
>It was not permanent, it was temporary."'
Life is temporary.
Enjoy it now,
when you can.
After we are dead
we can celebrate
the triviality of life!
THANKS FOR WRITING!
O
--- )
\
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http://net-prophet.net/ = website
alt.ucp = the ucp usenet newsgroup
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INTEGRATOR: Universal Conscious Plot:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
N-L!GHTENMENT! . . . R!GHT! . . . *NOW!*
*TOTALLY FREE!* @ http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
Unmoderated public usenet newsgroup = alt.ucp
*DO* THE UN!VERSAL CONSC!OUS PRACT!CE!
*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO P'R'E'SENT!
UCP !S THE *CRUX* OF RAT!ONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT !S THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSC!OUSNESS!
alt.ucp = THE UN!VERS!TY OF CONSC!OUSNESS!
YOU CAN RA!SE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SP!R!TUAL EVELUTION!
USE THE FREE V!RTUAL W!TNESS ONL!NE NOW!
ONE S!ZE F!TS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
!NQU!RE W!TH!N, ABOUT BECOMING YOURS'ELF!
P!NNACLE PATHS P!TCH PERFECT PER!METERS!
THE PR!ZE PATH !S A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL N-L!GHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODH!SATTVAS
S!NCE THE SECOND M!LLENN!UM
ONE BODH!SATTVA AT A T!ME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
alt.ucp posting history online at google.com . . .
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-
1&as_ugroup=alt.ucp&lr=&num=100&hl=en
LET'S ALL GO SANE RIGHT NOW!
TO $*ELF FUN*D KP'S MAD GAME:
$END $ TO KP@net-prophet.net
VIA paypal.com . . . and DO UCP!
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>> and you also
>> really want
>> to come
>>
>> APOLLO and DIONYSIS
>> in their interraction,
>> usually oscillate
>> from pole to
>> pole shIFt.
>>
>> I guess in non-duality they
>> would both be coming forever
>> in the eternal silent stillness?
>>
>> ????
>>
>> I guess I could
>> make do with that
>>
>> if it was my
>> only choice!
>>
>> Time will tell
>> Will what to
>>
>> DO NOW!
>> I'M DONE!
>>
>> ANOTHER STEP CLOSER!
>>
>> 1:03 edit + format 1:16
>>
>> 2:37 total this session
>>
>> THANKS FOR READING!
>
> Thanks for sharing. Good to see you do UCP.
>
>>
>> O
>> --- )
>> \
>>
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KP2006FEB05
Sunday:
8:14 PM Interesting day. Went to CSS.
Less people today. Maybe 20 to 25?
Filmed interview of zen priest Susan ????
I like her. Then I lucked out, it was
pot luck sunday! I got eats! I tried to
talk physics to several people, but even
Joel deferred to their physicist, who
was not here today. He'll be back next
week. I plan to go back. From the web
site, I overestimated the scientific
sophistication of the group at large.
It's a meditation group to them.
They've decided they can't understand
physics and don't want to attempt it.
That's my point of course, but no go.
I was all hexcited about my work in the
three points on their web page but no
one wanted to talk in detail about even
the first. They are relying on "experts".
I still like the people. They are calm and
graceful and a pleasure to talk to. Joel's
wife Jennifer is a delight. 8:43 rambling
to myself about the day. High hopes and
hexpectations. Nice interractions! But
not the interest I was hoping for. I've
talked a lot on the phone with Captain
Frank, when my tone was higher than
his, AND after he soared out of site.
I've seen him make huge changes in
beingness. And I haven't talked to
him in at least six months, maybe
a year or more. I don't remember.
When I last talked to him, I think
he was around tone 6 or 8 ?
I think Frank HAS what most of
the CSS people are looking for,
much more than versa vices.
[thoughts] [yawn] [yawn]
several reactions to that.
One, I'm disappointed.
On the other hand,
there IS Frank
reminding me
to DO UCP.
OK!
I can accept that.
I tell others enough.
[yawn] [yawn]
on the other hand it is scary.
reread [yawn] [yawn] 9:02
[yawn] [yawn] Susan the
zen priest spent SO many
years sitting to accomplish
some of the things I see
ucpeons easily demonstrate
in 100 hours of ucp! [yawn]
I think where they are trying
to finally go UCP will not take
them. I'm certainly not there,
and Frank is still Looking for
or at something, but as far as
I can see, UCP is the hexpress
route to the end of duality.
After that, you're on your own!
[yawn] 9:11 That's what's scary.
I keep looking for people who are
playing the same game as ucpeons.
Many asire to, and have positive
results and effects. CSS is quite
refreshing! I'm still interested in
finding out more about their actual
techniques and stages to see if they
correlate with the UCPlot. I like to
investigate lots of new things to
compare with UCP, but I'm not
giving up on my UCPractice.
The more things I look at
the more UCP looks like
THE hexPREssway hOMe.
9:20 = 1:06 hours
reread and spell/edit 9:27
[yawn] 9:29 I guess I'm not
done after all. [yawn] [yawn]
[yawn] [yawn] I feel a bit
embarrassed that Frank is
the one to demonstrate the
final result of UCP first, but
I've been a bit of a retard
when I comes to myself.
I learned how to do UCP
working with others, not
on myself. It was easier
for me to see that way.
I did the intellectual analysis in
a way that was Dissassociated
from my own pain and horror.
It took Gene Goodreau to
PROVE that UCP works solo.
At least the CSS didn't start
with the idea you needed
someone else to witness!
[yawn] They had that right
from the very start, where
it took me very a long time.
[yawn] others had to
prove it to me before
I believed it myself.
[yawn] [yawn]
Thank Gene I had others to
show me where I might be:
so I had to compare to that!
Thank Frank for showing that
UCP can indeed be finished!
[yawn] [yawn] [yawn] 9:47
s/g I'm missing here [yawn]
[yawn] [yawn] scary [yawn]
[yawn] [yawn] I guess I'm
afraid UCP *IS* the best
route to sentience,
and we have a
fuckup like me
in charge.
[yawn]
I'm trying to get a
whole planet sane,
and I can't even
keep up with
Captain Frank.
That scares me!
On the other hand,
[yawn] 9:59
[yawn] I hexplored
some new territory,
AND I did a session!
[yawn] Since I looked
at not being interested
in session . . . it was
easy to start this one.
[yawn] not so easy
to finish though [yawn]
[yawn] I guess that's
another reason I was
reluctant to start . . .
I don't want to bog
down and quite [yawn]
especially [yawn] as I'm
posting in public.
I always/usually have that
not-quite-fear about starting
a session. I don't know what
I will find out or how it will look.
10:07 [attacked by hungry dog]
[ate food, sat in hot tub
thinking about this stuff]
NEXT DAY = FEB 6 @ 10:13
[yawn] 10:13 didn't feel
like I ever quite finished
[yawn] [yawn] scary
keeps coming up again
[yawn] I feel like I'm on the
spot and have to perform well
or I will make a fool of myself.
Of course I've worked long and
hard to put myself on this very spot!
[yawn] [yawn] [yawn] 10:29
This is my huge chance to shine
so brightly it dazzles everyone
else into rapt sElf-hexamination!
[yawn] And I'm worried about
discovering something ugly.
[yawn] I suppose I should be
worried that I will *NOT* find
something ugly about myself
. . . that I can let go of now!
[yawn]
How else will I improve?
[yawn] Now I feel I should
look for something ugly . . .
so I can get rid of it!
How stupid is that! [laughs]
[yawn] [yawn] not sure
where I am in this session
NOW: [yawn] [yawn]
trying to end this session?
AH! [yawn] That makes sense.
[yawn] [yawn] I guess I feel
somewhat AT RISK in session.
I don't know what is happening!
I don't know hexactly where I am.
I not sure where I want to go!
[yawn] That's a bit scary
. . . call it uncomfortable.
[yawn] [yawn] [yawn]
I guess I want to do sessions,
because I want to raise my
awareness. But when I am
in session, I want to FINISH
on a WIN and get out of the
session . . . as though it was
OK to STOP looking now, and
then I won't feel so threatened
by . . . WHAT . . . [UNKNOWN]?
[yawn] That sounds crazy when
I look at it. I stop looking when
I'm not in session? Or I just stop
writing it down and posting it, so
my own stupidity stays "private".
That's crazy right there!
A guy in my position doing what
I do doesn't have any privacy,
and not doing sessions is
hardly a private affair!
IT SHOWS NO CHANGE!
[yawn] [yawn] [yawn]
I guess I've put myself
in a position where the
only thing I can do is go
forward, or I'll make a
total ass of myself by
failing to heed my own
universal advice to all.
WAY COOL!
[yawn] [yawn] [yawn]
I'm not really comfortable
in that position, but I see
that's where I need to be.
[yawn] [yawn]
There's some idea here that
it's OK to be less aware some
times than others. Yes, in the
physical world, danger is not
always present and you can
sleep sometimes, and not pay
much attention when awake.
Then there are those other times
when if you don't pay FULL attention
RIGHT NOW you will be die quite quickly.
Just because your physical life is not
immediately threatened is not reason
to be LESS AWARE. It just means you
have more freedom to put your attention
11:12 on whatever you like.
If you choose to lower or
constrict your attention
you diminish your life!
So if I'm going to be nervous,
I should be nervous ALL the
time. The physical universe
intermittently DEMANDS my
attention, and I give it. On
the other hand, my personal
universe ALLOWS hexploration
any time I get interested in me.
[yawn] [yawn] [yawn] 11:21
[dog break + snack]
11:44
keep thinking about McKeon
and Kuhn, who seems like a
student of his.
google work to check 12:21
I can't find any personal
relationship, though their
work has obvious similarity
12:22
I seem to have hextroverted
into curious communication,
so I guess this session is
over for now.
THANKS FOR READING!
O
--- )
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http://net-prophet.net/ = website
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http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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*TOTALLY FREE!* @ http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
Unmoderated public usenet newsgroup = alt.ucp
*DO* THE UN!VERSAL CONSC!OUS PRACT!CE!
*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO P'R'E'SENT!
UCP !S THE *CRUX* OF RAT!ONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT !S THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSC!OUSNESS!
alt.ucp = THE UN!VERS!TY OF CONSC!OUSNESS!
YOU CAN RA!SE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SP!R!TUAL EVELUTION!
USE THE FREE V!RTUAL W!TNESS ONL!NE NOW!
ONE S!ZE F!TS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
!NQU!RE W!TH!N, ABOUT BECOMING YOURS'ELF!
P!NNACLE PATHS P!TCH PERFECT PER!METERS!
THE PR!ZE PATH !S A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL N-L!GHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODH!SATTVAS
S!NCE THE SECOND M!LLENN!UM
ONE BODH!SATTVA AT A T!ME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
alt.ucp posting history online at google.com . . .
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-
1&as_ugroup=alt.ucp&lr=&num=100&hl=en
LET'S ALL GO SANE RIGHT NOW!
TO $*ELF FUN*D KP'S MAD GAME:
$END $ TO KP@net-prophet.net
VIA paypal.com . . . and DO UCP!
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KP2006FEB05
Sunday:
8:14 PM Interesting day. Went to CSS.
Less people today. Maybe 20 to 25?
Filmed interview of zen priest Susan ????
I like her. Then I lucked out, it was
pot luck sunday! I got eats! I tried to
talk physics to several people, but even
Joel deferred to their physicist, who
was not here today. He'll be back next
week. I plan to go back. From the web
site, I overestimated the scientific
sophistication of the group at large.
It's a meditation group to them.
They've decided they can't understand
physics and don't want to attempt it.
That's my point of course, but no go.
I was all hexcited about my work in the
three points on their web page but no
one wanted to talk in detail about even
the first. They are relying on "experts".
I still like the people. They are calm and
graceful and a pleasure to talk to. Joel's
wife Jennifer is a delight. 8:43 rambling
to myself about the day. High hopes and
hexpectations. Nice interractions! But
not the interest I was hoping for. I've
talked a lot on the phone with Captain
Frank, when my tone was higher than
his, AND after he soared out of site.
I've seen him make huge changes in
beingness. And I haven't talked to
him in at least six months, maybe
a year or more. I don't remember.
When I last talked to him, I think
he was around tone 6 or 8 ?
I think Frank HAS what most of
the CSS people are looking for,
much more than versa vices.
[thoughts] [yawn] [yawn]
several reactions to that.
One, I'm disappointed.
On the other hand,
there IS Frank
reminding me
to DO UCP.
OK!
I can accept that.
I tell others enough.
[yawn] [yawn]
on the other hand it is scary.
reread [yawn] [yawn] 9:02
[yawn] [yawn] Susan the
zen priest spent SO many
years sitting to accomplish
some of the things I see
ucpeons easily demonstrate
in 100 hours of ucp! [yawn]
I think where they are trying
to finally go UCP will not take
them. I'm certainly not there,
and Frank is still Looking for
or at something, but as far as
I can see, UCP is the hexpress
route to the end of duality.
After that, you're on your own!
[yawn] 9:11 That's what's scary.
I keep looking for people who are
playing the same game as ucpeons.
Many asire to, and have positive
results and effects. CSS is quite
refreshing! I'm still interested in
finding out more about their actual
techniques and stages to see if they
correlate with the UCPlot. I like to
investigate lots of new things to
compare with UCP, but I'm not
giving up on my UCPractice.
The more things I look at
the more UCP looks like
THE hexPREssway hOMe.
9:20 = 1:06 hours
reread and spell/edit 9:27
[yawn] 9:29 I guess I'm not
done after all. [yawn] [yawn]
[yawn] [yawn] I feel a bit
embarrassed that Frank is
the one to demonstrate the
final result of UCP first, but
I've been a bit of a retard
when I comes to myself.
I learned how to do UCP
working with others, not
on myself. It was easier
for me to see that way.
I did the intellectual analysis in
a way that was Dissassociated
from my own pain and horror.
It took Gene Goodreau to
PROVE that UCP works solo.
At least the CSS didn't start
with the idea you needed
someone else to witness!
[yawn] They had that right
from the very start, where
it took me very a long time.
[yawn] others had to
prove it to me before
I believed it myself.
[yawn] [yawn]
Thank Gene I had others to
show me where I might be:
so I had to compare to that!
Thank Frank for showing that
UCP can indeed be finished!
[yawn] [yawn] [yawn] 9:47
s/g I'm missing here [yawn]
[yawn] [yawn] scary [yawn]
[yawn] [yawn] I guess I'm
afraid UCP *IS* the best
route to sentience,
and we have a
fuckup like me
in charge.
[yawn]
I'm trying to get a
whole planet sane,
and I can't even
keep up with
Captain Frank.
That scares me!
On the other hand,
[yawn] 9:59
[yawn] I hexplored
some new territory,
AND I did a session!
[yawn] Since I looked
at not being interested
in session . . . it was
easy to start this one.
[yawn] not so easy
to finish though [yawn]
[yawn] I guess that's
another reason I was
reluctant to start . . .
I don't want to bog
down and quite [yawn]
especially [yawn] as I'm
posting in public.
I always/usually have that
not-quite-fear about starting
a session. I don't know what
I will find out or how it will look.
10:07 [attacked by hungry dog]
[ate food, sat in hot tub
thinking about this stuff]
NEXT DAY = FEB 6 @ 10:13
[yawn] 10:13 didn't feel
like I ever quite finished
[yawn] [yawn] scary
keeps coming up again
[yawn] I feel like I'm on the
spot and have to perform well
or I will make a fool of myself.
Of course I've worked long and
hard to put myself on this very spot!
[yawn] [yawn] [yawn] 10:29
This is my huge chance to shine
so brightly it dazzles everyone
else into rapt sElf-hexamination!
[yawn] And I'm worried about
discovering something ugly.
[yawn] I suppose I should be
worried that I will *NOT* find
something ugly about myself
. . . that I can let go of now!
[yawn]
How else will I improve?
[yawn] Now I feel I should
look for something ugly . . .
so I can get rid of it!
How stupid is that! [laughs]
[yawn] [yawn] not sure
where I am in this session
NOW: [yawn] [yawn]
trying to end this session?
AH! [yawn] That makes sense.
[yawn] [yawn] I guess I feel
somewhat AT RISK in session.
I don't know what is happening!
I don't know hexactly where I am.
I not sure where I want to go!
[yawn] That's a bit scary
. . . call it uncomfortable.
[yawn] [yawn] [yawn]
I guess I want to do sessions,
because I want to raise my
awareness. But when I am
in session, I want to FINISH
on a WIN and get out of the
session . . . as though it was
OK to STOP looking now, and
then I won't feel so threatened
by . . . WHAT . . . [UNKNOWN]?
[yawn] That sounds crazy when
I look at it. I stop looking when
I'm not in session? Or I just stop
writing it down and posting it, so
my own stupidity stays "private".
That's crazy right there!
A guy in my position doing what
I do doesn't have any privacy,
and not doing sessions is
hardly a private affair!
IT SHOWS NO CHANGE!
[yawn] [yawn] [yawn]
I guess I've put myself
in a position where the
only thing I can do is go
forward, or I'll make a
total ass of myself by
failing to heed my own
universal advice to all.
WAY COOL!
[yawn] [yawn] [yawn]
I'm not really comfortable
in that position, but I see
that's where I need to be.
[yawn] [yawn]
There's some idea here that
it's OK to be less aware some
times than others. Yes, in the
physical world, danger is not
always present and you can
sleep sometimes, and not pay
much attention when awake.
Then there are those other times
when if you don't pay FULL attention
RIGHT NOW you will be die quite quickly.
Just because your physical life is not
immediately threatened is not reason
to be LESS AWARE. It just means you
have more freedom to put your attention
11:12 on whatever you like.
If you choose to lower or
constrict your attention
you diminish your life!
So if I'm going to be nervous,
I should be nervous ALL the
time. The physical universe
intermittently DEMANDS my
attention, and I give it. On
the other hand, my personal
universe ALLOWS hexploration
any time I get interested in me.
[yawn] [yawn] [yawn] 11:21
[dog break + snack]
11:44
keep thinking about McKeon
and Kuhn, who seems like a
student of his.
google work to check 12:21
I can't find any personal
relationship, though their
work has obvious similarity
12:22
I seem to have hextroverted
into curious communication,
so I guess this session is
over for now.
THANKS FOR READING!
O
--- )
\
KONCHOK PENDAY
KP@net-prophet.net = email
http://net-prophet.net/ = website
alt.ucp = the ucp usenet newsgroup
blogicalthought.blogspot.com = blog
INTEGRATOR: Universal Conscious Plot:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
N-L!GHTENMENT! . . . R!GHT! . . . *NOW!*
*TOTALLY FREE!* @ http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
Unmoderated public usenet newsgroup = alt.ucp
*DO* THE UN!VERSAL CONSC!OUS PRACT!CE!
*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO P'R'E'SENT!
UCP !S THE *CRUX* OF RAT!ONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT !S THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSC!OUSNESS!
alt.ucp = THE UN!VERS!TY OF CONSC!OUSNESS!
YOU CAN RA!SE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SP!R!TUAL EVELUTION!
USE THE FREE V!RTUAL W!TNESS ONL!NE NOW!
ONE S!ZE F!TS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
!NQU!RE W!TH!N, ABOUT BECOMING YOURS'ELF!
P!NNACLE PATHS P!TCH PERFECT PER!METERS!
THE PR!ZE PATH !S A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL N-L!GHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODH!SATTVAS
S!NCE THE SECOND M!LLENN!UM
ONE BODH!SATTVA AT A T!ME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
alt.ucp posting history online at google.com . . .
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-
1&as_ugroup=alt.ucp&lr=&num=100&hl=en
LET'S ALL GO SANE RIGHT NOW!
TO $*ELF FUN*D KP'S MAD GAME:
$END $ TO KP@net-prophet.net
VIA paypal.com . . . and DO UCP!
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