Saturday, January 28, 2006
Re: session 27/01/06
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DATE: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:15:35 -0800
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: session 27/01/06
POSTER: tobire
REPLY TO: alt.ucp
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On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:15:35 -0800,
tobire wrote:
> I've been following the recent posts here,
Way Cool!
> and I have a few general comments to make.
Way Cool!
> The UCP "Universal Conscious plot" is very important in doing UCP.
YESSENCE!
It gives you a Universal Perspective
to COMPARE your own viewpoint to!
That helps you SH*IF*T!
> It seems to work from left to right.
That's just an apparency.
Everything on the same level
is equivalent to everything
else at that same level.
> On the right hand side you have "Ethics conditions", "Target Series",
> "Admin scale", these are doingness actions.
But EVERY emotion IS a doingness!
The different columns just allow you
to see the same thing from many
different perspectives.
> I think the chart is like a cylinder.You do UCP, brings up
> your tone level, improves your awareness, so now you have to attend to
> some doingness actions,
YESSENCE!
> making some progress on the right hand side,
> improve ethics conditions, do your admin scale, target series, come
> right around again, move up the tone scale, awareness charateristics,
> do more UCP.
I agree every change in awareness
brings some change in doingness.
But upward motion in
any column of the chart
raises all columns equally.
I have noticed that one column
will seem real or indicate to me
when the others don't register,
so I go with my reality/attention.
If you are talking about the
thought/action dicotomy,
that's common to every
tone level below zero.
It starts in DETACHMENT
and goes down through
DUALITY, DISPERSAL,
DISASSOCIATION and
DISCONNECTION, etc.
When you have integrated your
thoughts and your actions, you
are already up to zero/failure!
> I suspect If you do not attend to ethics and the right sideof the chart,
> very little forward progress will be made.
Tone Level *IS* Ethics.
It's what you ARE DOING.
When your awareness changes,
your actions naturally change too.
> You may even booby
> trap yourself and end up back down at "BEING NOTHING" (-20) -
> Disassociation, Not Responsible for -
I've NEVER seen anyone
go down tone doing ucp.
They may blow off a
dramatized happy face,
to show criminal confusion,
but that's really great progress!
> and all the BS that goes along with that.
That's not a danger from UCP.
> It does not matter how many hours you do, if you completelyneglect the
> right side of the chart you are going nowhere.
If you SEE something new,
you have already gone far!
Your actions will ALWAYS
reflect your perceptions!
> Above 22 is all about responsibility, contributing to, Production,
> attaining targets. In other words creating big effects, not negative
> ones.
Sure. But lifting your own tone
level at all, no matter where it is,
is a GREAT BIG POSITIVE effect!
> Probably UCP is badly in need of an operations manual,
Sure! We need a LOT!
I haven't updated the
web site in three years!
> something to be applied,
N-Lightenment Now! tells
you ALL the critical data!
With that and the chart,
you can recreate the rest.
I did it with much less!
> otherwise you end up in too much introspection,
????
Introspection, plus COMPARING
is what UCP is all about. When
your attention HEXTROVERTS,
then it's time to DO something!
> like a game of snakes and ladders,
> there is always a possibility of slippingright back down from where you
> started.
You COULD kill yourself right now!
But I doubt it's a real danger to us.
> I thought nothing of this site:
WOW! NO THOUGHTS!
ALREADY IT WORKED!
IT'S MAGIC ON YOU!
> http://www.puresilence.org
> Pretentious wankery.
I didn't get that at all.
I read a couple of his
essays. Maybe they
are working to get the
actual results of UCP?
Something Frank referenced
talked about 20 or 30 years
to turn off the mind. Frank
took less than 1,000 hours!
And there's a big
pack following him!
I suspect UCP may be THE
most efficient method of
achieving THEIR goal! :-)
Talk about over full circles
overflowing into each other!
LOTS of people go hexterior
with perception in Scientology,
accidents, operations, ETC.
But usually its just a freak event.
It happens. It's gone. It's over.
THEY DON'T STAY THAT WAY!
Though they are often quite
changed by the memory!
One really cool thing about UCP
is the gains are SO STABLE!
Maybe Frank is closing in on being
STABLY HEXTERIOR with perception,
due to his vast UCP hexperience.
Maybe UCP is the prep work
or setups for pure silence?
I.E. The METHOD of UCP
works by COMPARING now
with past and future. When
you get into the ETERNAL,
that methodology won't go.
It's like the END of a UCP session,
when you have already done the
heavy lifting, and you simply need
to stop the effort to let it happen.
RELAX AND ENJOY THE SHOW!
That's before or beyond the
rational structure of UCP.
When I was fasting a lot and
closing in on death and doing
the first UCP chart, I wanted to
=================
STOP EVERYTHING!
=================
I wanted to shut *ALL* my thoughts down.
Turn them off completely! NO noise at all!
Complete Silence! Then I wanted to very
carefully consider EACH ONE individually
against that background of silence, so I
could focus on each one and either kill it,
integrate it, or rewrite it to my new specs.
With so many thoughts blazing constantly,
you can't really focus on any one very well.
[Huge Thanks to Hobri Hope Hizer, who taught
me fasting . . . and so much I didn't learn at all.]
But if you could consider each one carefully
as itself, then you can see it hextra clearly.
Fasting lets you shut your body way down.
[This is hexellently good for it, by the way!]
You're not quite dead, but all unnecessary
expenditure of energy gets eliminated.
There is SO much you are NOT DOING!
Food and sex are irrelevant, plus all
the stuff connected with them. What
does that leave to do with yourself?
Your energy level is blotto.
You withdraw into yourself.
TIME SLOWS DOWN!
AND FINALLY YOUR
ATTENTION IS FREE!
SO YOU CAN LOOK!
AND YOU CAN SEE!
WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT?
MYSELF?
MY HEXPERIENCE OF MYSELF?
????
THE HOLY GRAIL QUEST TO UNDERSTAND
CONSCIOUSNESS OR AWARENESS ITSELF?
????
Sounds good to me!
That shifted my attention to the ucp chart,
[which existed mostly in I*MAGI*nation], in
a super-focused EFFORT producing the
chart itself, and a NEW UNDERSTANDING!
And a 1981 book titled
"Til Death Do Us Part".
And the discovery or creation of the
Universal Clearing Process, now the
Universal Conscious Practice.
Eventually that full circled
until it finally full cycled, and
Frank ran into non-duality so
hard even he couldn't deny it!
The first of *MANY* UCProducts
to be launched into non-duality!
*PERFECT* WAY COOL!
THANKS FOR WRITING!
O
--- )
KONCHOK PENDAY
KP@net-prophet.net = email
http://net-prophet.net/ = website
alt.ucp = the ucp usenet newsgroup
blogicalthought.blogspot.com = blog
INTEGRATOR: Universal Conscious Plot:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
N-L!GHTENMENT! . . . R!GHT! . . . *NOW!*
*TOTALLY FREE!* @ http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
Unmoderated public usenet newsgroup = alt.ucp
*DO* THE UN!VERSAL CONSC!OUS PRACT!CE!
*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO P'R'E'SENT!
UCP !S THE *CRUX* OF RAT!ONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT !S THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSC!OUSNESS!
alt.ucp = THE UN!VERS!TY OF CONSC!OUSNESS!
YOU CAN RA!SE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SP!R!TUAL EVELUTION!
USE THE FREE V!RTUAL W!TNESS ONL!NE NOW!
ONE S!ZE F!TS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
!NQU!RE W!TH!N, ABOUT BECOMING YOURS'ELF!
P!NNACLE PATHS P!TCH PERFECT PER!METERS!
THE PR!ZE PATH !S A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL N-L!GHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODH!SATTVAS
S!NCE THE SECOND M!LLENN!UM
ONE BODH!SATTVA AT A T!ME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
alt.ucp posting history online at google.com . . .
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugroup=alt.ucp&lr=&num=100&hl=en
$*ELF FUN*D THE GREAT GAME: LET'S ALL GO SANE RIGHT NOW!
$END $ TO KP@net-prophet.net VIA paypal.com . . . and DO UCP!
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DATE: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:15:35 -0800
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: session 27/01/06
POSTER: tobire
REPLY TO: alt.ucp
NEW DISTRIBUTION:
BLOG: blogicalthought.blogspot.com
NEWSGROUPS: alt.ucp,alt.consciousness,alt.meditation,alt.self-improve,alt.spiritual.enhancement,alt.religion.scientology,alt.clearing.technology,
==========================================================================
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:15:35 -0800,
tobire
> I've been following the recent posts here,
Way Cool!
> and I have a few general comments to make.
Way Cool!
> The UCP "Universal Conscious plot" is very important in doing UCP.
YESSENCE!
It gives you a Universal Perspective
to COMPARE your own viewpoint to!
That helps you SH*IF*T!
> It seems to work from left to right.
That's just an apparency.
Everything on the same level
is equivalent to everything
else at that same level.
> On the right hand side you have "Ethics conditions", "Target Series",
> "Admin scale", these are doingness actions.
But EVERY emotion IS a doingness!
The different columns just allow you
to see the same thing from many
different perspectives.
> I think the chart is like a cylinder.You do UCP, brings up
> your tone level, improves your awareness, so now you have to attend to
> some doingness actions,
YESSENCE!
> making some progress on the right hand side,
> improve ethics conditions, do your admin scale, target series, come
> right around again, move up the tone scale, awareness charateristics,
> do more UCP.
I agree every change in awareness
brings some change in doingness.
But upward motion in
any column of the chart
raises all columns equally.
I have noticed that one column
will seem real or indicate to me
when the others don't register,
so I go with my reality/attention.
If you are talking about the
thought/action dicotomy,
that's common to every
tone level below zero.
It starts in DETACHMENT
and goes down through
DUALITY, DISPERSAL,
DISASSOCIATION and
DISCONNECTION, etc.
When you have integrated your
thoughts and your actions, you
are already up to zero/failure!
> I suspect If you do not attend to ethics and the right sideof the chart,
> very little forward progress will be made.
Tone Level *IS* Ethics.
It's what you ARE DOING.
When your awareness changes,
your actions naturally change too.
> You may even booby
> trap yourself and end up back down at "BEING NOTHING" (-20) -
> Disassociation, Not Responsible for -
I've NEVER seen anyone
go down tone doing ucp.
They may blow off a
dramatized happy face,
to show criminal confusion,
but that's really great progress!
> and all the BS that goes along with that.
That's not a danger from UCP.
> It does not matter how many hours you do, if you completelyneglect the
> right side of the chart you are going nowhere.
If you SEE something new,
you have already gone far!
Your actions will ALWAYS
reflect your perceptions!
> Above 22 is all about responsibility, contributing to, Production,
> attaining targets. In other words creating big effects, not negative
> ones.
Sure. But lifting your own tone
level at all, no matter where it is,
is a GREAT BIG POSITIVE effect!
> Probably UCP is badly in need of an operations manual,
Sure! We need a LOT!
I haven't updated the
web site in three years!
> something to be applied,
N-Lightenment Now! tells
you ALL the critical data!
With that and the chart,
you can recreate the rest.
I did it with much less!
> otherwise you end up in too much introspection,
????
Introspection, plus COMPARING
is what UCP is all about. When
your attention HEXTROVERTS,
then it's time to DO something!
> like a game of snakes and ladders,
> there is always a possibility of slippingright back down from where you
> started.
You COULD kill yourself right now!
But I doubt it's a real danger to us.
> I thought nothing of this site:
WOW! NO THOUGHTS!
ALREADY IT WORKED!
IT'S MAGIC ON YOU!
> http://www.puresilence.org
> Pretentious wankery.
I didn't get that at all.
I read a couple of his
essays. Maybe they
are working to get the
actual results of UCP?
Something Frank referenced
talked about 20 or 30 years
to turn off the mind. Frank
took less than 1,000 hours!
And there's a big
pack following him!
I suspect UCP may be THE
most efficient method of
achieving THEIR goal! :-)
Talk about over full circles
overflowing into each other!
LOTS of people go hexterior
with perception in Scientology,
accidents, operations, ETC.
But usually its just a freak event.
It happens. It's gone. It's over.
THEY DON'T STAY THAT WAY!
Though they are often quite
changed by the memory!
One really cool thing about UCP
is the gains are SO STABLE!
Maybe Frank is closing in on being
STABLY HEXTERIOR with perception,
due to his vast UCP hexperience.
Maybe UCP is the prep work
or setups for pure silence?
I.E. The METHOD of UCP
works by COMPARING now
with past and future. When
you get into the ETERNAL,
that methodology won't go.
It's like the END of a UCP session,
when you have already done the
heavy lifting, and you simply need
to stop the effort to let it happen.
RELAX AND ENJOY THE SHOW!
That's before or beyond the
rational structure of UCP.
When I was fasting a lot and
closing in on death and doing
the first UCP chart, I wanted to
=================
STOP EVERYTHING!
=================
I wanted to shut *ALL* my thoughts down.
Turn them off completely! NO noise at all!
Complete Silence! Then I wanted to very
carefully consider EACH ONE individually
against that background of silence, so I
could focus on each one and either kill it,
integrate it, or rewrite it to my new specs.
With so many thoughts blazing constantly,
you can't really focus on any one very well.
[Huge Thanks to Hobri Hope Hizer, who taught
me fasting . . . and so much I didn't learn at all.]
But if you could consider each one carefully
as itself, then you can see it hextra clearly.
Fasting lets you shut your body way down.
[This is hexellently good for it, by the way!]
You're not quite dead, but all unnecessary
expenditure of energy gets eliminated.
There is SO much you are NOT DOING!
Food and sex are irrelevant, plus all
the stuff connected with them. What
does that leave to do with yourself?
Your energy level is blotto.
You withdraw into yourself.
TIME SLOWS DOWN!
AND FINALLY YOUR
ATTENTION IS FREE!
SO YOU CAN LOOK!
AND YOU CAN SEE!
WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT?
MYSELF?
MY HEXPERIENCE OF MYSELF?
????
THE HOLY GRAIL QUEST TO UNDERSTAND
CONSCIOUSNESS OR AWARENESS ITSELF?
????
Sounds good to me!
That shifted my attention to the ucp chart,
[which existed mostly in I*MAGI*nation], in
a super-focused EFFORT producing the
chart itself, and a NEW UNDERSTANDING!
And a 1981 book titled
"Til Death Do Us Part".
And the discovery or creation of the
Universal Clearing Process, now the
Universal Conscious Practice.
Eventually that full circled
until it finally full cycled, and
Frank ran into non-duality so
hard even he couldn't deny it!
The first of *MANY* UCProducts
to be launched into non-duality!
*PERFECT* WAY COOL!
THANKS FOR WRITING!
O
--- )
KONCHOK PENDAY
KP@net-prophet.net = email
http://net-prophet.net/ = website
alt.ucp = the ucp usenet newsgroup
blogicalthought.blogspot.com = blog
INTEGRATOR: Universal Conscious Plot:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
N-L!GHTENMENT! . . . R!GHT! . . . *NOW!*
*TOTALLY FREE!* @ http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
Unmoderated public usenet newsgroup = alt.ucp
*DO* THE UN!VERSAL CONSC!OUS PRACT!CE!
*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO P'R'E'SENT!
UCP !S THE *CRUX* OF RAT!ONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT !S THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSC!OUSNESS!
alt.ucp = THE UN!VERS!TY OF CONSC!OUSNESS!
YOU CAN RA!SE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SP!R!TUAL EVELUTION!
USE THE FREE V!RTUAL W!TNESS ONL!NE NOW!
ONE S!ZE F!TS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
!NQU!RE W!TH!N, ABOUT BECOMING YOURS'ELF!
P!NNACLE PATHS P!TCH PERFECT PER!METERS!
THE PR!ZE PATH !S A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL N-L!GHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODH!SATTVAS
S!NCE THE SECOND M!LLENN!UM
ONE BODH!SATTVA AT A T!ME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
alt.ucp posting history online at google.com . . .
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugroup=alt.ucp&lr=&num=100&hl=en
$*ELF FUN*D THE GREAT GAME: LET'S ALL GO SANE RIGHT NOW!
$END $ TO KP@net-prophet.net VIA paypal.com . . . and DO UCP!
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((