Wednesday, August 02, 2006
Re: UCP doesn't work, KP is a fraud
PRIOR POST PROFILE:
DATE: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 05:59:49 -0700
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: UCP doesn't work, KP is a fraud
POSTER: [frankds1@yahoo.com]
REPLY-TO: alt.ucp
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BLOG: blogicalthought.blogspot.com
NEWSGROUPS: alt.ucp,alt.consciousness,alt.meditation,
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 05:59:49 -0700,
frankds [frankds1@yahoo.com] wrote:
> neal.pardoe@clara.co.uk wrote:
>> Well Frank, your comments have prompted some comments to the list from
>> me, hehe!
Frank:
> WELCOME!
>> UCP doesn't work? true if that means it will not take one to complete
>> and full enlightenment, to be as the Buddha. The reason UCP doesn't and
>> can't work in that way is that the process has us seeking answers from
>> the mind, but the answers we seek are beyond the mind. 'I' is a
>> concept, I am not a concept!
> TO WHO?
> ;-))
>> Did it ever occur to you that we may have learned/been taught
>> incorrectly how to use our minds and what our minds are doing?
>
> YES!
>
> but what have we done to....
>
> OUR KIDS
That's a very pointed question/observation.
What could that possibly have to do with
possible UCP family, community, tribe?
>> Admittedly, KP does only talk about raising awareness, but even that is
>> impossible. You can't raise awareness any more than do anything else
>> to or with it. Awareness is the single background constant behind
>> everything, without it there is nothing. How can anything *be* unless
>> there is awareness to say so? So what exactly is awareness? How would
>> you explain or describe awareness to someone else?
> OOPS!
>
> did you hear that penny fall on the floor
>
> BEFORE the recognition of what it was?
>> Perceptions are something else to be questioned and examined more
>> thoroughly. For instance, What exactly are perceptions? Are they
>> merely physical sensory input? Do we put too much faith in our
>> perceptions? Do we mistakenly take what we perceive to be completely
>> true and if so, at what level is this truth? What about all the things
>> that are out of our perceptive capabilites?
> I have NO attention on them
>> Past and Future are also well worth questioning especially *as ideas*.
>> Where exactly are they? What irrefutable evidence is there that proves
>> without doubt their existence? Maybe like me, all your life you've
>> assumed that past and future are just how it is and it never occurred
>> to you to really examine them.
> because our attention was fixated on them
>> if any of you are interested, there is a very informative on-line video
>> "the holographic universe", of about 30mins that Frank has also already
>> watched and said he will be doing so again. The first 20mins are good
>> and well explained and question a number of our basic assumptions, but
>> I didn't agree with the ending conclusions or terminology.
>>
>> the link is;
>>
>> http://snipurl.com/qv00
>>
>>
>> KP is a fraud? no, he may make fraudulent claims but he is not a fraud,
>> he is not an any*thing*, just like the rest of us, a ghost in the
>> machine with a case of mistaken identity.
> sure made a good title!
"Good" for WHAT?
Sowing Confusion?
> it was nothing more than a cognition that
>
> seeking had ended for me
Perhaps you need some help
hexpressing yourself better?
>> The truth is radically different to what we've been led to believe,
>> read some non-duality material and question everything, especially your
>> own beliefs, or don't. Either way, it doesn't really matter.
>
> I agree
> frank
>>
>> neal.
"but what have we done to....OUR KIDS"
Oh, I forgot . . . "it doesn't really matter"
Is that an example of "non-duality"?
Free Clue: it does to the kids,
and possibly their parents too.
THANKS FOR WRITING.
O
--- )
\
KONCHOK PENDAY
KP@net-prophet.net = email
http://net-prophet.net/ = website
alt.ucp = the ucp usenet newsgroup
blogicalthought.blogspot.com = blog
INTEGRATOR: Universal Conscious Plot:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
AUTHOR: Til Death Do Us Part . . .
A Basic Education in Total Health:
How to Keep Body and Soul Happily Together
http://www.lulu.com/content/261881
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
*DO* THE UNIVERSAL CONSCIOUS PRACTICE!
*COMPARE* PRESENT TO PAST AND FUTURE!
ENLIGHTENMENT! . . . RIGHT! . . . *NOW!*
*TOTALLY FREE!* @ http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
Unmoderated public usenet newsgroup: alt.ucp
= The UNIVERSITY of CONSCIOUSNESS PULPIT!
UCP IS THE *CRUX* OF RATIONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT IS THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSCIOUSNESS!
*YOU* CAN RAISE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION!
USE THE FREE VIRTUAL WITNESS ONLINE NOW!
ONE SIZE FITS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
INQUIRE WITHIN, ABOUT BECOMING YOURSELF!
PINNACLE PATHS PITCH PERFECT PERIMETERS!
THE PRIZE PATH IS A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL ENLIGHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODHISATTVAS
SINCE THE SECOND MILLENNIUM . . .
ONE BODHISATTVA AT A TIME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
alt.ucp posting history online at google.com . . .
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-
1&as_ugroup=alt.ucp&lr=&num=100&hl=en
To support my intention in action,
$end $ to KP@net-prophet.net
via paypal.com and *DO* UCP!
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
DATE: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 05:59:49 -0700
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: UCP doesn't work, KP is a fraud
POSTER: [frankds1@yahoo.com]
REPLY-TO: alt.ucp
NEW DISTRIBUTION:
BLOG: blogicalthought.blogspot.com
NEWSGROUPS: alt.ucp,alt.consciousness,alt.meditation,
alt.clearing.technology,alt.spiritual.enhancement,
alt.self-improve,alt.religion.scientology,
====================================
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 05:59:49 -0700,
frankds [frankds1@yahoo.com] wrote:
> neal.pardoe@clara.co.uk wrote:
>> Well Frank, your comments have prompted some comments to the list from
>> me, hehe!
Frank:
> WELCOME!
>> UCP doesn't work? true if that means it will not take one to complete
>> and full enlightenment, to be as the Buddha. The reason UCP doesn't and
>> can't work in that way is that the process has us seeking answers from
>> the mind, but the answers we seek are beyond the mind. 'I' is a
>> concept, I am not a concept!
> TO WHO?
> ;-))
>> Did it ever occur to you that we may have learned/been taught
>> incorrectly how to use our minds and what our minds are doing?
>
> YES!
>
> but what have we done to....
>
> OUR KIDS
That's a very pointed question/observation.
What could that possibly have to do with
possible UCP family, community, tribe?
>> Admittedly, KP does only talk about raising awareness, but even that is
>> impossible. You can't raise awareness any more than do anything else
>> to or with it. Awareness is the single background constant behind
>> everything, without it there is nothing. How can anything *be* unless
>> there is awareness to say so? So what exactly is awareness? How would
>> you explain or describe awareness to someone else?
> OOPS!
>
> did you hear that penny fall on the floor
>
> BEFORE the recognition of what it was?
>> Perceptions are something else to be questioned and examined more
>> thoroughly. For instance, What exactly are perceptions? Are they
>> merely physical sensory input? Do we put too much faith in our
>> perceptions? Do we mistakenly take what we perceive to be completely
>> true and if so, at what level is this truth? What about all the things
>> that are out of our perceptive capabilites?
> I have NO attention on them
>> Past and Future are also well worth questioning especially *as ideas*.
>> Where exactly are they? What irrefutable evidence is there that proves
>> without doubt their existence? Maybe like me, all your life you've
>> assumed that past and future are just how it is and it never occurred
>> to you to really examine them.
> because our attention was fixated on them
>> if any of you are interested, there is a very informative on-line video
>> "the holographic universe", of about 30mins that Frank has also already
>> watched and said he will be doing so again. The first 20mins are good
>> and well explained and question a number of our basic assumptions, but
>> I didn't agree with the ending conclusions or terminology.
>>
>> the link is;
>>
>> http://snipurl.com/qv00
>>
>>
>> KP is a fraud? no, he may make fraudulent claims but he is not a fraud,
>> he is not an any*thing*, just like the rest of us, a ghost in the
>> machine with a case of mistaken identity.
> sure made a good title!
"Good" for WHAT?
Sowing Confusion?
> it was nothing more than a cognition that
>
> seeking had ended for me
Perhaps you need some help
hexpressing yourself better?
>> The truth is radically different to what we've been led to believe,
>> read some non-duality material and question everything, especially your
>> own beliefs, or don't. Either way, it doesn't really matter.
>
> I agree
> frank
>>
>> neal.
"but what have we done to....OUR KIDS"
Oh, I forgot . . . "it doesn't really matter"
Is that an example of "non-duality"?
Free Clue: it does to the kids,
and possibly their parents too.
THANKS FOR WRITING.
O
--- )
\
KONCHOK PENDAY
KP@net-prophet.net = email
http://net-prophet.net/ = website
alt.ucp = the ucp usenet newsgroup
blogicalthought.blogspot.com = blog
INTEGRATOR: Universal Conscious Plot:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
AUTHOR: Til Death Do Us Part . . .
A Basic Education in Total Health:
How to Keep Body and Soul Happily Together
http://www.lulu.com/content/261881
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
*DO* THE UNIVERSAL CONSCIOUS PRACTICE!
*COMPARE* PRESENT TO PAST AND FUTURE!
ENLIGHTENMENT! . . . RIGHT! . . . *NOW!*
*TOTALLY FREE!* @ http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
Unmoderated public usenet newsgroup: alt.ucp
= The UNIVERSITY of CONSCIOUSNESS PULPIT!
UCP IS THE *CRUX* OF RATIONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT IS THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSCIOUSNESS!
*YOU* CAN RAISE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION!
USE THE FREE VIRTUAL WITNESS ONLINE NOW!
ONE SIZE FITS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
INQUIRE WITHIN, ABOUT BECOMING YOURSELF!
PINNACLE PATHS PITCH PERFECT PERIMETERS!
THE PRIZE PATH IS A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL ENLIGHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODHISATTVAS
SINCE THE SECOND MILLENNIUM . . .
ONE BODHISATTVA AT A TIME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
alt.ucp posting history online at google.com . . .
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-
1&as_ugroup=alt.ucp&lr=&num=100&hl=en
To support my intention in action,
$end $ to KP@net-prophet.net
via paypal.com and *DO* UCP!
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
