Wednesday, August 02, 2006
Re: UCP doesn't work, KP is a fraud
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DATE: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:32:47 -0700
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: UCP doesn't work, KP is a fraud
POSTER: [neal.pardoe@clara.co.uk]
REPLY-TO: alt.ucp
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:32:47 -0700,
[neal.pardoe@clara.co.uk] wrote:
> Well Frank, your comments have prompted some comments to the list from
> me, hehe!
> UCP doesn't work? true if that means it will not take one to complete
> and full enlightenment, to be as the Buddha.
It won't? How do you know that?
Captain Frank has already demonstrated
UCP *DOES* take you at least to Tone +32!
Compared to most things,
that convincingly proves
UCP *DOES* WORK QUITE
RAPIDLY AND HEXCELLENTLY!
>The reason UCP doesn't and
> can't work in that way is that the process has us seeking answers from
> the mind, but the answers we seek are beyond the mind. 'I' is a
> concept, I am not a concept!
WHO said that UCP has us
seeking answers from "the mind"?
That would be Neal . . . NOT KP!
Apparently, he does not really
understand UCP very well at all!
> Did it ever occur to you that we may have learned/been taught
> incorrectly how to use our minds and what our minds are doing?
Gosh!
I've been talking about that for 25 years!
Apparently, you have not yet noticed!
> Admittedly, KP does only talk about raising awareness, but even that is
> impossible.
???? Even you stopped defending Scientology
when you were raising your awareness with UCP!
>You can't raise awareness any more than do anything else
> to or with it.
And yet, somehow, even you have been able to
OBVIOUSLY raise your awareness, in some areas.
>Awareness is the single background constant behind
> everything,
Except for those things
which require unawareness.
>without it there is nothing.
????
What about all those things
which many people are
completely unaware of?
>How can anything *be* unless
>there is awareness to say so?
Quite naturally, without any effort.
The universe does not need your
consent or permission to operate.
>So what exactly is awareness? How would
>you explain or describe awareness to someone else?
It depends on who that someone was,
and what questions they were asking.
> Perceptions are something else to be questioned and examined more
> thoroughly. For instance, What exactly are perceptions? Are they
> merely physical sensory input? Do we put too much faith in our
> perceptions? Do we mistakenly take what we perceive to be completely
> true and if so, at what level is this truth? What about all the things
> that are out of our perceptive capabilites?
You have some questions.
Do you have answers too?
> Past and Future are also well worth questioning especially *as ideas*.
> Where exactly are they? What irrefutable evidence is there that proves
> without doubt their existence? Maybe like me, all your life you've
> assumed that past and future are just how it is and it never occurred
> to you to really examine them.
Gosh!
You've done all that UCP,
and you never examined
your own past and future?
HOW did you COMPARE?
> if any of you are interested, there is a very informative on-line video
> "the holographic universe", of about 30mins that Frank has also already
> watched and said he will be doing so again. The first 20mins are good
> and well explained and question a number of our basic assumptions, but
> I didn't agree with the ending conclusions or terminology.
>
> the link is;
>
> http://snipurl.com/qv00
OK. Haven't seen it.
No good video feed yet.
> KP is a fraud? no, he may make fraudulent claims but he is not a fraud,
I MAY make fraudulent claims.
You MAY point them out for
consideration or contention,
but so far YOU HAVE NOT.
You MAY be up to Disagreeability,
or MAY be just dramatizing it. You
communicate so little it's hard to tell.
> he is not an any*thing*, just like the rest of us, a ghost in the
> machine with a case of mistaken identity.
WHAT is "my mistaken identity"?
> The truth is radically different to what we've been led to believe,
Then I should dismiss what you
are now leading me to believe?
>read some non-duality material and question everything,
Yes. I was reading non-duality material
long before I started posting about UCP.
Reading it did not rapidly and
radically raise my awareness.
UCP did. In fact, Captain Frank
has PROVEN that *DOING* UCP
rapidly brings you to non-duality.
>especially your own beliefs, or don't.
>Either way, it doesn't really matter.
It matters to me!
And everyone who
has actually DONE
any UCP. You are
certainly not the
Scientology stooge
who first appeared
here. Doesn't that
make a difference
in your own life?
> neal.
THANKS FOR WRITING.
O
--- )
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http://net-prophet.net/ = website
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INTEGRATOR: Universal Conscious Plot:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
AUTHOR: Til Death Do Us Part . . .
A Basic Education in Total Health:
How to Keep Body and Soul Happily Together
http://www.lulu.com/content/261881
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
*DO* THE UNIVERSAL CONSCIOUS PRACTICE!
*COMPARE* PRESENT TO PAST AND FUTURE!
ENLIGHTENMENT! . . . RIGHT! . . . *NOW!*
*TOTALLY FREE!* @ http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
Unmoderated public usenet newsgroup: alt.ucp
= The UNIVERSITY of CONSCIOUSNESS PULPIT!
UCP IS THE *CRUX* OF RATIONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT IS THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSCIOUSNESS!
*YOU* CAN RAISE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION!
USE THE FREE VIRTUAL WITNESS ONLINE NOW!
ONE SIZE FITS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
INQUIRE WITHIN, ABOUT BECOMING YOURSELF!
PINNACLE PATHS PITCH PERFECT PERIMETERS!
THE PRIZE PATH IS A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL ENLIGHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODHISATTVAS
SINCE THE SECOND MILLENNIUM . . .
ONE BODHISATTVA AT A TIME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
alt.ucp posting history online at google.com . . .
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-
1&as_ugroup=alt.ucp&lr=&num=100&hl=en
To support my intention in action,
$end $ to KP@net-prophet.net
via paypal.com and *DO* UCP!
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DATE: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:32:47 -0700
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: UCP doesn't work, KP is a fraud
POSTER: [neal.pardoe@clara.co.uk]
REPLY-TO: alt.ucp
NEW DISTRIBUTION:
BLOG: blogicalthought.blogspot.com
NEWSGROUPS: alt.ucp,alt.consciousness,alt.meditation,
alt.clearing.technology,alt.spiritual.enhancement,
alt.self-improve,alt.religion.scientology,
=====================================
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:32:47 -0700,
[neal.pardoe@clara.co.uk] wrote:
> Well Frank, your comments have prompted some comments to the list from
> me, hehe!
> UCP doesn't work? true if that means it will not take one to complete
> and full enlightenment, to be as the Buddha.
It won't? How do you know that?
Captain Frank has already demonstrated
UCP *DOES* take you at least to Tone +32!
Compared to most things,
that convincingly proves
UCP *DOES* WORK QUITE
RAPIDLY AND HEXCELLENTLY!
>The reason UCP doesn't and
> can't work in that way is that the process has us seeking answers from
> the mind, but the answers we seek are beyond the mind. 'I' is a
> concept, I am not a concept!
WHO said that UCP has us
seeking answers from "the mind"?
That would be Neal . . . NOT KP!
Apparently, he does not really
understand UCP very well at all!
> Did it ever occur to you that we may have learned/been taught
> incorrectly how to use our minds and what our minds are doing?
Gosh!
I've been talking about that for 25 years!
Apparently, you have not yet noticed!
> Admittedly, KP does only talk about raising awareness, but even that is
> impossible.
???? Even you stopped defending Scientology
when you were raising your awareness with UCP!
>You can't raise awareness any more than do anything else
> to or with it.
And yet, somehow, even you have been able to
OBVIOUSLY raise your awareness, in some areas.
>Awareness is the single background constant behind
> everything,
Except for those things
which require unawareness.
>without it there is nothing.
????
What about all those things
which many people are
completely unaware of?
>How can anything *be* unless
>there is awareness to say so?
Quite naturally, without any effort.
The universe does not need your
consent or permission to operate.
>So what exactly is awareness? How would
>you explain or describe awareness to someone else?
It depends on who that someone was,
and what questions they were asking.
> Perceptions are something else to be questioned and examined more
> thoroughly. For instance, What exactly are perceptions? Are they
> merely physical sensory input? Do we put too much faith in our
> perceptions? Do we mistakenly take what we perceive to be completely
> true and if so, at what level is this truth? What about all the things
> that are out of our perceptive capabilites?
You have some questions.
Do you have answers too?
> Past and Future are also well worth questioning especially *as ideas*.
> Where exactly are they? What irrefutable evidence is there that proves
> without doubt their existence? Maybe like me, all your life you've
> assumed that past and future are just how it is and it never occurred
> to you to really examine them.
Gosh!
You've done all that UCP,
and you never examined
your own past and future?
HOW did you COMPARE?
> if any of you are interested, there is a very informative on-line video
> "the holographic universe", of about 30mins that Frank has also already
> watched and said he will be doing so again. The first 20mins are good
> and well explained and question a number of our basic assumptions, but
> I didn't agree with the ending conclusions or terminology.
>
> the link is;
>
> http://snipurl.com/qv00
OK. Haven't seen it.
No good video feed yet.
> KP is a fraud? no, he may make fraudulent claims but he is not a fraud,
I MAY make fraudulent claims.
You MAY point them out for
consideration or contention,
but so far YOU HAVE NOT.
You MAY be up to Disagreeability,
or MAY be just dramatizing it. You
communicate so little it's hard to tell.
> he is not an any*thing*, just like the rest of us, a ghost in the
> machine with a case of mistaken identity.
WHAT is "my mistaken identity"?
> The truth is radically different to what we've been led to believe,
Then I should dismiss what you
are now leading me to believe?
>read some non-duality material and question everything,
Yes. I was reading non-duality material
long before I started posting about UCP.
Reading it did not rapidly and
radically raise my awareness.
UCP did. In fact, Captain Frank
has PROVEN that *DOING* UCP
rapidly brings you to non-duality.
>especially your own beliefs, or don't.
>Either way, it doesn't really matter.
It matters to me!
And everyone who
has actually DONE
any UCP. You are
certainly not the
Scientology stooge
who first appeared
here. Doesn't that
make a difference
in your own life?
> neal.
THANKS FOR WRITING.
O
--- )
\
KONCHOK PENDAY
KP@net-prophet.net = email
http://net-prophet.net/ = website
alt.ucp = the ucp usenet newsgroup
blogicalthought.blogspot.com = blog
INTEGRATOR: Universal Conscious Plot:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
AUTHOR: Til Death Do Us Part . . .
A Basic Education in Total Health:
How to Keep Body and Soul Happily Together
http://www.lulu.com/content/261881
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
*DO* THE UNIVERSAL CONSCIOUS PRACTICE!
*COMPARE* PRESENT TO PAST AND FUTURE!
ENLIGHTENMENT! . . . RIGHT! . . . *NOW!*
*TOTALLY FREE!* @ http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
Unmoderated public usenet newsgroup: alt.ucp
= The UNIVERSITY of CONSCIOUSNESS PULPIT!
UCP IS THE *CRUX* OF RATIONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT IS THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSCIOUSNESS!
*YOU* CAN RAISE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION!
USE THE FREE VIRTUAL WITNESS ONLINE NOW!
ONE SIZE FITS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
INQUIRE WITHIN, ABOUT BECOMING YOURSELF!
PINNACLE PATHS PITCH PERFECT PERIMETERS!
THE PRIZE PATH IS A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL ENLIGHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODHISATTVAS
SINCE THE SECOND MILLENNIUM . . .
ONE BODHISATTVA AT A TIME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
alt.ucp posting history online at google.com . . .
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-
1&as_ugroup=alt.ucp&lr=&num=100&hl=en
To support my intention in action,
$end $ to KP@net-prophet.net
via paypal.com and *DO* UCP!
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
