Wednesday, August 02, 2006

Re: UCP doesn't work, KP is a fraud

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DATE: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:51:32 -0700,
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: UCP doesn't work, KP is a fraud
POSTER: [frankds1@yahoo.com]
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:51:32 -0700,
frankds [frankds1@yahoo.com] wrote:


. . . SNIP HEADER . . .

>> On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 05:10:10 -0700,
>> frankds [frankds1@yahoo.com] wrote:
>>
>> . . . SNIP header
>>
>> >> On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 07:21:07 -0700,
>> >> frankds [frankds1@yahoo.com] wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > UCP doesn't work,
>>
>> WHAT about UCP doesn't work, for what?
>>
>> KP:
>> >> That's an interesting statement,
>> >> considering UCP took you quickly
>> >> from somewhere around -5 or -10
>> >> right straight up to +20 non-duality.
>> >>
>> >> > KP is a fraud
>>
>> That's sounds suspiciously
>> like a Generality to me. Do
>> you have some Specific
>> criticisms that I could
>> respond to, or learn
>> something from?
>>
>> >> Yes. I've stripped off
>> >> many layers of fraud
>> >> with UCP, just as you
>> >> have. I imagine there
>> >> may well be many more.
>> >>
>> >> > thats what came up in the *LAST* UCP session I did
>>
>> > YES!
>> >
>> > I found out that what I had been seeking
>> >
>> > *I ALREADY WAS*
>>
>> But you had NO clue
>> of that cosmic truth
>> until you *DID* UCP!
>>
>> How can you possibly
>> say UCP does not work?
>>
>> >> OK!
>> >>
>> >> Did you Compare that idea?
>>
>> > what would you compare to realisation
>>
>> How about Conditions,
>> Hexistence or Source?
>>
>> There must be some differences
>> or they would all be the same tone.
>>
>> >> Or just cling to that thought?
>>
>> > NO, but *YOU DID*
>>
>> ????
>> You are the one who
>> introduced it here now.
>> Where has it been since
>> you hatched it in January?
>> I was NOT clinging to it!
>> I never encountered it!
>>
>> >> > that was in january
>> >>
>> >> OK.
>> >>
>> >> > I wanted no more to do with UCP after 738 hrs
>> >>
>> >> OK.
>> >>
>> >> Nobody forced you
>> >> to play . . . or stay.
>>
>> > ?????
>> >
>> > what point are you TRYING to make?
>>
>> Just a comment.
>>
>> Are you sure you
>> are TRYING to
>> understand?
>>
>> >> > screw anymore seeking
>>
>> KP:
>> >> When you have found
>> >> everything you desire.
>>
>> > when you find it is LIE
>>
>> OK! Everything you
>> were seeking is a lie!
>>
>> That's very interesting!
>> You might elaborate.
>>
>> >> > but........ UCP took me to THAT POINT of realisation
>>
>> WOW! I didn't notice
>> your precision before!
>> UCP GOES TO TONE
>> +32 = REALIZATION!
>>
>> So the COMPARE function
>> is workable well into the
>> +30+ region! WAY COOL!
>>
>> That's WAY better than
>> just to tone +20, which
>> I misunderstood before
>> from your posts to be the
>> limit of comparing things.
>>
>> Perhaps Comparing DOES
>> go up to Tone +40 after all?
>>
>> >> YESSENCE!
>> >>
>> >> My cheap fraud obviously did
>> >> work spectacularly well for you.
>>
>> > didn't I already say that
>>
>> I thought you said:
>> "UCP doesn't work."
>>
>> My feeble mind has
>> difficulty resolving
>> those as the same
>> message about UCP.
>>
>> Perhaps you could Clear
>> up my Confusion on this?
>>
>> >> I really appreciate your thanks!
>> >>
>> >> > SO IT WAS NECESSARY
>> >>
>> >> But NOW you can bad-rap
>> >> what got you to non-duality
>>
>> > ?????????
>>
>> "UCP doesn't work, KP is a fraud" . . .
>>
>> In MY universe, that routinely passes for
>> bad-rapping, in the absence of phILL wILL.
>>
>> >> > I had been exterior as well
>>
>> >> Yes.
>> >> Many have.
>> >> But did they
>> >> Stay that way?
>>
>> > how would I know
>>
>> Perhaps you,
>> like me, know
>> many people
>> who HAVE
>> BEEN exterior.
>>
>> > you ask them
>>
>> Your previous origination is
>> "I had been exterior as well",
>> so it seems your answer is NO.
>>
>> My answer is NO also.
>> I've been out temporarily,
>> but crashed in again.
>>
>> I don't recall anyone
>> who stayed hexterior.
>>
>> So my primitive poll
>> reports being hexterior
>> as a temporary condition
>> in most cases. Do we have
>> any cases of permanent
>> independence from the
>> body? If so, HOW did they
>> get and stay that way?
>>
>> >> > but where to now?
>> >>
>> >> Right Here?
>> >>
>> >> > I stumbled across NON-DUALITY sites
>> >>
>> >> Seeking something else?
>>
>> > NO!
>>
>> OK.
>>
>> You were not seeking.
>>
>> The universe simply
>> was non-dual for you
>> when you needed it,
>> and UCP for you when
>> you needed UCP, which
>> DID get you to Non-Duality
>> before it "ceased" to work.
>>
>> >> > Sailor Bob Adamson was the first one with links to more
>> >>
>> >> OK. Is sailing the secret to eternal bliss?
>>
>> > in YOUR *MIND*
>>
>> Well, usually in MY MIND,
>> I'm too busy taking drugs,
>> having sex, or playing
>> music to go sailing, but
>> maybe partying on a
>> boat would be better!
>> . . . at least in MY mind.
>>
>> I wouldn't mind trying
>> both options in the
>> physical universe,
>> so I could compare!
>>
>> >> > UCP to NON-DUALITY was a natural transition
>> >>
>> >> Sure, it's right there on the UCPlot at +20.
>> >> UCP takes you directly to Non-Duality . . .
>> >> at which point you can stop the Comparing
>> >> steps of UCP, and simply hexperience NOW,
>> >> or perhaps eternity, without splitting up the
>> >> universe to Compare Parts of it to each other.
>> >>
>> >> YOU PROVED THAT!
>> >> Thank you very much!
>>
>> > Da Nada
>>
>> It's quite
>> something
>> TO ME!
>>
>> >> > ........an extension!
>> >>
>> >> OK!
>> >>
>> >> > been off sailing for a few months to south america
>> >>
>> >> OK!
>> >>
>> >> > so I thought I wouild check you peons out
>> >>
>> >> OK!
>> >>
>> >> > glad to see progress being made in my absence
>> >> > frank
>> >>
>> >> OK!
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for stopping by!
>> >>
>> >> Any words of wisdom
>> >> from the +20 band of
>> >> non-duality for we
>> >> fraudulent peons?
>> >
>> > YES
>>
>> WAY COOL!
>>
>> > continue doing UCP
>>
>> WAY COOL!
>>
>> But I'm a bit confused now.
>> A post ago you were telling me
>> "UCP doesn't work, KP is a fraud".
>> Now you are agreeing with me again.
>>
>> > compare future and present to NOW
>>
>> WAY COOL!
>>
>> > the NOW in this PRESENT MOMENT
>>
>> OK!
>>
>> > SEE that the future is illusion and the past is long gone
>>
>> That sounds great,
>> but I'm still working
>> on getting UP TO
>> Prediction and
>> Hexpectation.
>>
>> I certainly notice them
>> in my consciousness,
>> but I'm still trying to
>> master them, not
>> to leave them
>> behind yet.
>>
>> > there is only NOW
>>
>> Yes. But that
>> keeps changing.
>>
>> And there are
>> recurring themes
>> which invite prediction
>> and even hexpectation.
>>
>> > AWARENESS is NOW
>>
>> YES!
>>
>> In my reality,
>> Prediction and
>> Hexpectation
>> are too, NOW!
>>
>> So I guess I'll have
>> to deal with them as
>> long as they are
>> Here and Now
>> . . . for me.
>>
>> That's MY Prediction Now.
>>
>> Thanks for confirming
>> that UCP handles that!
>>
>> Looking forward
>> to being there,
>> IN MY NOW.
>>
>> > YOU ARE AWARENESS
>>
>> YESSENCE!
>>
>> But perhaps I might
>> be improved slightly!
>>
>> I know it sounds absurd,
>> but I might yet find a way!

Captain Frank:
> maybe it would be a good time to start looking at non-duality

Gosh! I've been looking at non-duality
for well over 20 years now. Among my
teachers are Namkai Norbu, most of
whose books I've read, and who I have
hexperienced several times. Some
others as well, including my friend
Montino Bourbon, who taught me
*SO* much, not just information and
ideas, but by BEING who he is, and
DOING what he does . . . SO WELL!

He compares quite well to my Ideal
Scene for myself, much of which I
model on his remarkable presence
and beneficial influence on others.

So far, the best way of looking at
non-duality I've found is . . . UCP!

And I've COMPARED it's results
to other productive practices.

UCP COMPARES QUITE WELL!

UCP IS HOW *YOU* STARTED
LOOKING AT NON-DUALITY!

KEEP LOOKING!

THAT *IS* THE FIRST
STEP OF . . . UCP!

I LOVE IT WHEN YOU
MAKE ME SO RIGHT!

> that is where you will end up anyway

That's not at all certain to me so far.

But Thanks for your opinion that
DOING UCP CAN'T STOP ME from
getting directly to non-duality!

I appreciate hearing from
the voice of hexperience.

YOU PROVED IT!
*SO* RAPIDLY!
WHAT A GIFT!

I LOVE IT WHEN YOU
MAKE ME SO RIGHT!

> of course you could WAIT
>
> for DEATH

YESSENCE!

I COULD!

But *IF* I wanted to be dead,
I could complete that project
almost instantly. I'm too busy
now working to create my ideal
scene for mysElf and my wORld
to do too much Waiting Now.

>> > frank

THANKS FOR PLAYING!
THANKS FOR POSTING!


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