Wednesday, February 01, 2006
Re: approaching effort band
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DATE: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:58:22 -0800
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: approaching effort band
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:58:22 -0800,
wrote:
> frankds wrote:
>> > Hi Alex
>> >
>> > reading you session report is interesting
>
> Brahmamurti (Alex) wrote:
>> cool
>
> frankds:
>> >
>> > but I've realised that maybe I've been doing UCP wrong
>
> Brahmamurti:
>> refining and trying other ways is part of ucp too
>
> frankds:
>> > when I compare to NOW
>> >
>> > I look around the room, touch the desk, feel the floor, feel the chair
>> >
>> > look at things and feel things to DISTANCE me from those those
>> >
>> > PAST AND FUTURE thoughts
>> >
>> > otherwise it's all THINK
>
> Brahmamurti:
>> i don't think i am getting what you are saying but i guess that is ok.
>> usually i don't get much of what people say.... i used to think that i
>> did and knew all about what they were about but i weren't really
>> listening. of course pretending to know and seeing things that aren't
>> really there is hallucination. it is much more comfortable to
>> hallucinating about what people say instead of really hearing what they
>> say... just like it is easier to sit and think about doing stuff
>> instead of doing them. I am so good at pretending. thinking is what i
>> am good at however it is of no use if one is not good a doing also
>> which i am not. had no practice. can't get my act together and do. only
>> when i realize where i am really at can i truly start to move. its just
>> like being in a car with a navigation system malfunctioning... you
>> can't get to where you would like to unless you start looking around
>> and seeing where and/or fix the navigation system. to fix the
>> navigation you have to look around or else you won't be able to adjust
>> the system. and so you don't really need automation no more. you know
>> your way and you get to where you want to go... if you do it. why am i
>> saying this... i don't know... because i want to? who cares! i am just
>> so sick of being in this sick state of awareness and i wanna get out of
>> it. i am not so keen on promising things because it is such a set back
>> if i don't keep my promise. so i won't promise to do more ucp. and why
>> should anybody care what i do anyways? this is so pathetic of me. oh
>> well. how long have i been at ucp? i don't really care. i know that i
>> am better of now than before thanks God for that... however it feels
>> more crappy than ever before... so yucky!! hate that but there must be
>> a reason for it and one has to go through the yucky parts as well
>> because they are the ones that stop me from living my life as i please
>> iguess.
>>
>> thanks for sharing your thoughts frank. appreciate it. it gave me the
>> opportunity to actually look some more at what i do during ucp and thus
>> also my life.
wrote:
> Brahmamurti,
>
> I *think* you suffer from what many/most of us suffer from - some of us
> more than others - and that's "stinkin' thinkin" - LOL
Sure!
Until you get ABOVE THINK!
> I'm not trying to make fun of you. I think I understand quite a bit how
> you think and feel and I have suffered from same condition - too much
> think, no action, regret about inaction, etc. I still do from time to
> time.
OK!
> Like you, I too was a very shy/sensitive kid. I was taught that correct
> behaviour was to keep your mouth shut - speak only when spoken to - and
> so on. I'm MUCH MORE BOLD NOW! GO AHEAD, TRY TO SHUT ME UP ;-)
Thanks for the opportunity,
but I think I'll pass this time.
. . . I *LIKE* it when you talk!
> UCP helped/helps you - it has helped me too.
! But YOU did all the work!
>Another thing that helped
> me was to get more and more closer towards 'acceptance' - especially
> self acceptance - *unconditional* self acceptance.
Where you are now
is where you are: so
you are STUCK there
until you accept it as
IT IS: to work WITH IT!
>The idea that you
> don't have to be/do anything or compete with anyone or with some ideal
> idea of who you should be. You are, as a spiritual being, special -
> priceless by the mere fact that you exist!
And blessed with opportunities
for abundant sElf-improvement,
due to your godly intelligence!
> I've had to learn how to be a friend to myself - to love myself
> unconditionally and even to do this when I am in very bad shape -
WAY COOL!
That's when you need it most, and
your friends are likely most scarce.
> especially when I am in very bad shape.
YESSENCE!
Make yoursElf a friend for life!
>This truly helped me to stop fighting myself.
It's hard to shoot the driver
when you are in back pushing.
> I know this might sound silly, but a little 'process' that I found
> helpful was simply to write up a list of all the good things I've done
> and acknowledge myself!. So many times we do a lot of little, ordinary
> things and no one acknowledges them. Little things in life *are*
> important. Say you go out and do the grocery shopping for your family
> or take the garbage out - take credit for those things.
WHERE YOU WERE!
AND WHAT YOU DID!
Compare to now!
> Later, I even learned to 'take credit for' - as in 'OK, fine - I did
> it' - no justifications - just to 'take credit' for the bad things I'd
> done. When I could really do that easily it took all any
> shame/blame/regret and washed it all away and I could laugh about them
> - almost celebrate my 'bad side'.
Celebrating your CAUSE
even in your ERRORS!
Keep Celebrating!
> I don't know if anything I'm saying makes sense to you.
IT ALL DOES.
>Just thought I'd share my thoughts.
> iTal
THANKS FOR SHARING!
O
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DATE: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:58:22 -0800
NEWSGROUP: alt.ucp
THREAD: Re: approaching effort band
POSTER:
REPLY TO: alt.ucp
NEW DISTRIBUTION:
BLOG: blogicalthought.blogspot.com
NEWSGROUPS: alt.ucp,alt.consciousness,alt.meditation,alt.self-improve,alt.spiritual.enhancement,alt.religion.scientology,alt.clearing.technology
==========================================================================
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:58:22 -0800,
> frankds wrote:
>> > Hi Alex
>> >
>> > reading you session report is interesting
>
> Brahmamurti (Alex) wrote:
>> cool
>
> frankds:
>> >
>> > but I've realised that maybe I've been doing UCP wrong
>
> Brahmamurti:
>> refining and trying other ways is part of ucp too
>
> frankds:
>> > when I compare to NOW
>> >
>> > I look around the room, touch the desk, feel the floor, feel the chair
>> >
>> > look at things and feel things to DISTANCE me from those those
>> >
>> > PAST AND FUTURE thoughts
>> >
>> > otherwise it's all THINK
>
> Brahmamurti:
>> i don't think i am getting what you are saying but i guess that is ok.
>> usually i don't get much of what people say.... i used to think that i
>> did and knew all about what they were about but i weren't really
>> listening. of course pretending to know and seeing things that aren't
>> really there is hallucination. it is much more comfortable to
>> hallucinating about what people say instead of really hearing what they
>> say... just like it is easier to sit and think about doing stuff
>> instead of doing them. I am so good at pretending. thinking is what i
>> am good at however it is of no use if one is not good a doing also
>> which i am not. had no practice. can't get my act together and do. only
>> when i realize where i am really at can i truly start to move. its just
>> like being in a car with a navigation system malfunctioning... you
>> can't get to where you would like to unless you start looking around
>> and seeing where and/or fix the navigation system. to fix the
>> navigation you have to look around or else you won't be able to adjust
>> the system. and so you don't really need automation no more. you know
>> your way and you get to where you want to go... if you do it. why am i
>> saying this... i don't know... because i want to? who cares! i am just
>> so sick of being in this sick state of awareness and i wanna get out of
>> it. i am not so keen on promising things because it is such a set back
>> if i don't keep my promise. so i won't promise to do more ucp. and why
>> should anybody care what i do anyways? this is so pathetic of me. oh
>> well. how long have i been at ucp? i don't really care. i know that i
>> am better of now than before thanks God for that... however it feels
>> more crappy than ever before... so yucky!! hate that but there must be
>> a reason for it and one has to go through the yucky parts as well
>> because they are the ones that stop me from living my life as i please
>> iguess.
>>
>> thanks for sharing your thoughts frank. appreciate it. it gave me the
>> opportunity to actually look some more at what i do during ucp and thus
>> also my life.
> Brahmamurti,
>
> I *think* you suffer from what many/most of us suffer from - some of us
> more than others - and that's "stinkin' thinkin" - LOL
Sure!
Until you get ABOVE THINK!
> I'm not trying to make fun of you. I think I understand quite a bit how
> you think and feel and I have suffered from same condition - too much
> think, no action, regret about inaction, etc. I still do from time to
> time.
OK!
> Like you, I too was a very shy/sensitive kid. I was taught that correct
> behaviour was to keep your mouth shut - speak only when spoken to - and
> so on. I'm MUCH MORE BOLD NOW! GO AHEAD, TRY TO SHUT ME UP ;-)
Thanks for the opportunity,
but I think I'll pass this time.
. . . I *LIKE* it when you talk!
> UCP helped/helps you - it has helped me too.
! But YOU did all the work!
>Another thing that helped
> me was to get more and more closer towards 'acceptance' - especially
> self acceptance - *unconditional* self acceptance.
Where you are now
is where you are: so
you are STUCK there
until you accept it as
IT IS: to work WITH IT!
>The idea that you
> don't have to be/do anything or compete with anyone or with some ideal
> idea of who you should be. You are, as a spiritual being, special -
> priceless by the mere fact that you exist!
And blessed with opportunities
for abundant sElf-improvement,
due to your godly intelligence!
> I've had to learn how to be a friend to myself - to love myself
> unconditionally and even to do this when I am in very bad shape -
WAY COOL!
That's when you need it most, and
your friends are likely most scarce.
> especially when I am in very bad shape.
YESSENCE!
Make yoursElf a friend for life!
>This truly helped me to stop fighting myself.
It's hard to shoot the driver
when you are in back pushing.
> I know this might sound silly, but a little 'process' that I found
> helpful was simply to write up a list of all the good things I've done
> and acknowledge myself!. So many times we do a lot of little, ordinary
> things and no one acknowledges them. Little things in life *are*
> important. Say you go out and do the grocery shopping for your family
> or take the garbage out - take credit for those things.
WHERE YOU WERE!
AND WHAT YOU DID!
Compare to now!
> Later, I even learned to 'take credit for' - as in 'OK, fine - I did
> it' - no justifications - just to 'take credit' for the bad things I'd
> done. When I could really do that easily it took all any
> shame/blame/regret and washed it all away and I could laugh about them
> - almost celebrate my 'bad side'.
Celebrating your CAUSE
even in your ERRORS!
Keep Celebrating!
> I don't know if anything I'm saying makes sense to you.
IT ALL DOES.
>Just thought I'd share my thoughts.
> iTal
THANKS FOR SHARING!
O
--- )
KONCHOK PENDAY
KP@net-prophet.net = email
http://net-prophet.net/ = website
alt.ucp = the ucp usenet newsgroup
blogicalthought.blogspot.com = blog
INTEGRATOR: Universal Conscious Plot:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/nuchart15.htm
FORMULATOR: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/ = UCP HOME PAGE
INVENTORevolutionary Architecture System:
SUBS = Simple Universal Building System:
http://net-prophet.net/subs/
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
N-L!GHTENMENT! . . . R!GHT! . . . *NOW!*
*TOTALLY FREE!* @ http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
Unmoderated public usenet newsgroup = alt.ucp
*DO* THE UN!VERSAL CONSC!OUS PRACT!CE!
*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO P'R'E'SENT!
UCP !S THE *CRUX* OF RAT!ONAL THOUGHT!
THE UCPLOT !S THE ROSETTA STONED
OF UNDERSTANDING CONSC!OUSNESS!
alt.ucp = THE UN!VERS!TY OF CONSC!OUSNESS!
YOU CAN RA!SE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
ACCELERATE YOUR OWN SP!R!TUAL EVELUTION!
USE THE FREE V!RTUAL W!TNESS ONL!NE NOW!
ONE S!ZE F!TS ALL SELF TAUGHT GOD LESSON!
!NQU!RE W!TH!N, ABOUT BECOMING YOURS'ELF!
P!NNACLE PATHS P!TCH PERFECT PER!METERS!
THE PR!ZE PATH !S A PATTERN: *UCP!*
ENHANCING GLOBAL N-L!GHTENMENT
BY BUILDING BETTER BODH!SATTVAS
S!NCE THE SECOND M!LLENN!UM
ONE BODH!SATTVA AT A T!ME!
*DO* UCP TO KNOW!
alt.ucp posting history online at google.com . . .
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-
1&as_ugroup=alt.ucp&lr=&num=100&hl=en
$*ELF FUN*D THE GREAT GAME: LET'S ALL GO SANE RIGHT NOW!
$END $ TO KP@net-prophet.net VIA paypal.com . . . and DO UCP!
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