Sunday, January 22, 2006
Re: Control - that's what I want!
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> HI KP,
HI!
>Thanks for taking the time to give me such a
>long and interesting reply - I appreciate that.
You're very welcome!
I spent 8 or 10 hours on it.
It was a wonderful day for me
since I found it SO interesting.
I've spent another 5 or more?
on this round. I'm still SEEING.
>> NOW YOU KNOW!
>>
>> Way Cool!
>>
>> Control over WHO?
>
> I will hold that question in mind.
>
>>
>> I love your transparent
>> "brokenangel" identity!
>
> Yes - I like it to. It fits.
>
>>
>> The broken angel
>> who heals himself
>> is MY Super-Hero.
>
> Cool - also mine.
>I'd love to be my own superhero.
THAT'S a fantasy that
can take you SO far.
Compare him to you!
You're complaining
you're flying so low
you hurt your knee.
I'M CRYING YOU'RE FLYING!
>> THAT is who
>> we all need!
>>
>> The Decended Master,
>> coming back from hell!
>
> Yes. A lovely metaphor.
Metaphor?
*MY LIFE!*
>> Bringing the Keys to the Kingdom . . .
>> formerly flushed down the toilet of life!
>
> :-)
They were in my pocket
when I won a big bet by
putting my head in the
toilet and flushing. :-)
I bet I could get
all the way to
the bottom!
*I WON!*
I'm gonna be rich when I
find that guy and collect!
PLUS I've cornered the
market on bragging rights:
it must be worth something.
>> Going from being broken to
>> taking a break is a long journey.
>>
>> UCP IS THE HEXPRESS ROUTE!
>
> I hope so.
>
>>
>> It's just as far, but you
>> get there much quicker!
>
> I'm naturally drawn to the most efficent means of doing things.
Good.
>Still even the efficient way
Is the best way,
as in only way.
>seems to be a huge mountain
Hexactly!
It SEEMS!
Because you have identifed
the way with the mountain.
The mountain is huge
but THE PATH IS UP!
>and my power to climb not enough.
If you rise at all,
you do have the
power to climb!
You're already moving!
Just keep climbing!
One step at a time!
>> If you're sleeping by the side of
>> the road, you might never arrive.
>> You might well never even move!
> That's true - or worse slip into the ditch beside the road.
Yes!
Leeches, cutthroats,
whinos and worse . . .
suicides, by whining!
>>> I have been doing a little UCP on and off,
>>
>> Way Cool!
>>
>> You have been DOING . . .
>>
>>> when I get little bits of time and I can actually
>>
>> Yessence!
>>
>> You CAN actually! YOU *DO!*
>>
>>> get my mind to be still enough to do something useful.
>>
>> Aha!
>>
>> I can help you a little bit right here.
>> WHO SAYS your mind must be still
>> before you can do UCP? NOT ME!
>
> OK - just makes it easier to focus for more than 10 mins on it.
OK!
>> Look at what IS!
>>
>> If your mind is all wound up
>> like a sex-crazed dog madly
>> humping your left leg . . .
>>
>> LOOK AT THAT!
>
> OK. I will.
>
>>
>> When did you feel like that before?
>>
>>> I did some on the tube as I was going to work today.
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>> YOU *DID!*
>>
>>> Doing it while I'm moving works for me -
>>
>> What works for you works for me!
>>
>>> when I'm walking or going somewhere.
>>
>> Any time you work ucp
>> . . . ucp works for you!
>
> OK - I need to do more - results are not obvious to me.
OK. Keep looking!
They are thrillingly
easy for me to see!
I think you were stuck in some valence
when you were posting a couple years ago,
I think you got that valence up to zero . . .
Got that zero, +-20, +-40, resonance going.
Sat oo the cusp of a valence choice looking,
and FOUND YOURSELF where you are now.
I've seen it before where you see the
social self, the valence the guy believes
and projects, get up near zero and then
he SEES that's NOT HIM, and that his
ACTUAL location is around -40 or so.
You've gotten to a deeper level of him.
That's a full circle completion of a small
game expanding to a much larger game.
>>> Sitting myself down and doing aproper focused session is hard.
>>
>> OK! Congratulations for discovering
>> that through actual personal testing!
>
> Thank you. :-)
>
>>
>> What felt like that before? Go there!
>>
>> What about an improper
>> unfocused session?
>>
>> Ever felt like that before?
>>
>>> Sitting myself down and doing aproper focused anything is hard -
>>
>> On the other hand, it also gave
>> you quite remarkable gains . . .
>>
>> What you do . . . is up to you!
>>
>>> my brain is just overstimulated.
>>
>> When was it like that before?
>>
>> What would "proper" stimulation be?
>>
>>> Needs meditation or something to slow it down -
>>
>> WHY slow it down?
>>
>> It needs UCP . . .
>> as in LOOKING AT
>> . . . going too fast.
>
> OK :-)
>
>>
>> Ever felt way too fast before?
>>
>>> meditation is hard - takes time and Ineed to go over that hump to get
>>> started!
>>
>> LOOK *AT* THE HUMP!
>> *THAT'S* YOUR START!
>>
>> That's where your
>> attention IS NOW!
>>
>>> Drugs are easier.
>>
>> OK!
>>
>> Start there!
>>
>> Do drugs!
>>
>> Not the addictive and
>> deadly pharmaceuticals,
>> just the psychedelics.
> Umm - it's been a while. I feel some fear of them and
>can't seem to find the appropriate space to do them now -
Maybe it was not
appropriate then.
>I have forgotten - feel stiffer than when I was younger.
>Still I may try again - easy to buy mushrooms here in London -
Way Cool!
>they sell on the streets in stalls - though
> the government are killing that one.
What DON'T governments kill?
>> COMPARE THEM TO
>> THE "NORMAL" YOU!
>
> Yes - good idea. I have many incredible LSD states to compare to.
FANTASTIC!
You have a huge treasure trove
of actual hexperience to mine!
A mother load of personal data.
>> "Repeat as necessary."
>>
>> Drugs give you new and
>> changing viewpoints to
>> compare with old ones.
> Absolutely. As you said the psychedelics are better. I was not
> referring to them. I take GHB - it's has a more alchohol type effect
> but without the toxic effects on the body.
OK! I don't know that one.
>> COMPARING those yields
>> increased Understanding.
>
> OK
>
>>
>> It's like changing mates,
>> without all the heartache!
>>
>> You learn so much
>> about your self.
>>
>> You have to do some
>> work to get some gain.
> Yes - ah there is my stumbling block.
Hexcellent!
You found it again!
Take a good look so
you can recognize it.
That might save a trip to
the store to buy another.
>>> Why can't meditation be as easy as taking some pill! or UCP.
>>
>> ????
>>
>> UCP *IS* MEDITATION!
>> OPT!MUMED!TAT!ON!
>
> :-)
>
>>
>> Its easier if you LOOK AT Difficulty,
>> instead of trying to Ignore it to see
>> something ELSE Hiding behind it.
>>
>> The difficulty is easy to see.
>>
>> Look at it!
>>
>> Looking for the "easy" way
>> is how people avoid UCP.
>>
>> Unfortunately for them,
>> the ONLY way that works
>> is the "HARD" way to go!
>
> I hear you.
>
>>
>> The easy way goes nowhere.
>> So they don't move at all.
>
> Yes
>
>>
>>> Anyway I'm where I am and
>>
>> YESSENCE!
>>
>> Your bewildered self-disclosure of
>> your disquieting self *KNOWLEDGE*
>> is so charmingly innocent and rare!
> A lovley compliment - thank you.
My pleasure to give!
I felt SO Honored to watch
your spiritual birth struggle.
It's SO RARE, and most of what I see
is thru usenet posts. To *HEAR* your
voice perfectly reflecting your words
gave me an incredible spiritual RUSH!
It's seems like a birth too, because
there's a new voice in my chorus: a
new note in the cosmic background.
>> SELF-KNOWLEDGE YOU *HAVE* NOW
>> marks you an uncomfortable winner!
>>
>> That's the best you can do now!
>>
>> You are *supposed* to be uncomfortable!
>> It's the sensible, sane, authentic reaction!
>
> OK
>
>>
>> The rest of the billions
>> are so far below you,
>> they don't even know
>> they have *NO CLUE!*
>>
>> They don't even suspect!
>>
>> That *IS* the sad and
>> uncomfortable truth.
>
> Seems so.
>
>>
>> BUT *YOU* MOVED!
>>
>> You KNOW something
>> is missing from your
>> own life equation.
>>
>> YOU ARE RISING BY
>> YOUR OWN EFFORT!
>>
>>> my brain is this way for now,but it's not satisfying me -
>>
>> OK!
>>
>> Sounds like you are up to
>> Demand for Improvement
>> on your own UCP Ability!
>>
>> Way Cool!
>>
>> You got it going on!
>> You want it better!
>> Hexcellent choice!
>>
>>> need to find a
>>
>>> way to make progress even with my brain this way.
>>
>> NOW you have the idea!
>>
>> You have to move on,
>> most especially when
>> you are all fucked up!
>>
>
> YEs
>
>> You need to find out:
>> you already found out.
>> You just forgot a bit! :-)
>
> I found out but have not found a way out.
WHO might that way out be?
>> HOW IS your brain now?
>>
>> Ever felt like that before?
>>
>>> Does UCP work really!
>>
>> What have YOU discovered
>> through YOUR personal test?
> I, through my limited use of your tool,
>have seen new things and delve
>around a bit in not so new stuff.
OK!
>I do not see yet if seeing this
>stuff changes any of it.
OK!
>I've discovered mostly things are very....
>soupy inside! and hard to verbalise!
NEW PERCEPTION!
I say that's a great big deal!
ANYTHING *YOU DISCOVER*
IS a big deal. Discovering
something CONNECTED TO
your actual life has obvious
potential for real progress.
MOVING A LITTLE IS
A *VERY* BIG DEAL!
Like a steam locomotive,
getting started is hardest.
Once it moves at all, no
matter how slowly, it picks
up more and more speed, as
long as you shovel the coal.
>> DOES UCP WORK FOR *YOU*
>> WHEN YOU ACTUALLY DO IT?
>
> Too early to say.
OK!
>>> or is it just the delusions of a mad man?
>>
>> What have YOU discovered?
>>
>> UCP may be much more than
>> the delusions of a mad man!
>>
>> However, those delusions
>> already made him much saner!
>> Now he has replaced them with
>> something slightly better, and he
>> plans to replace them again soon.
>>
>> You trade in your old viewpoints
>> for some brand new ones . . . and
>> get some CHANGE in the bargain!!
>>
>>> But the madman hits me - he makes sense - he is real!
>>
>> If you are talking about you, or me, or both . . . I AGREE!
>
> You.
>
>>
>> Saying something REAL
>> is what distinguishes my
>> communication from others,
>> and what attracts the attention
>> of those I most wish to reach!
>
> Yes indeed.
>
>>
>> I'm not the same old formless
>> gelatinous bland gray mush of
>> politically correct euphemisms!
>
> That - you are not.
>
>>
>> I HAVE MY OWN VIEWPOINT!
>
> Yep
>
>>
>> That's what I share here. :-)
>
> And thank you for sharing it KP.
Thanks for listening, and DOing!
And for posting your reports!
>> That's what people respond to,
>> even if only to robotically whine.
>>
>> Somehow, they feel I EXIST,
>> and they have some kind of
>> murky CONNECTION to me.
>> . . . That gets them going.
>>
>>> I don't see that often.
>>
>> I agree completely.
>>
>> How many showed
>> up for our party?
>>
>> That's ALL *I* could find!
>>
>
> :-)
>
>> It's not quite perfect yet, but
>> it's way better than nothing!
>>
>>> He's not perfect but he showshis inperfection so perfectly.
>>
>> AS DO YOU!
>>
>> The imperfection is not
>> nearly so important as
>> THE PERFECTION *IS!*
>>
>> A little perfection
>> goes a long way!
>>
>> You can mix it in, but
>> it still floats to the top.
>>
>> GIVE IN TO WIN!
>>
>>> It's a delight.
>>
>> My time with you was
>> completely delightful!
>>
>> I played you the applause from a
>> live performance of Beethoven's
>> ninth symphony, because I thought
>> you richly deserved if for what you
>> had clearly stated instantly before!
>>
>> I forgot what you said, but I know I felt
>> strongly it was a *PERFECT* statement!
>>
>> I wanted you to feel
>> how excited I was
>> for your success!
> I felt it!
!
>>
>> After you struggle so hard
>> for so long to dig yourself
>> out of a really deep hole,
>>
>> you find out you dug it yourself,
>> and it's called Pandora's Box . . .
>>
>> and you have just midwifed
>> your own conscious birth.
>>
>> Your name is Pandora, and
>> . . . You're the Daddy too!
>>
>> You fucked yourself again!
>> And got knocked up too!
>> No wonder you feel ill!
> Another wonderful metaphor -
Thanks for duplicating!
It made me happy too!
>- you are very good at them.
When I am TUNED IN to the universal they
keep coming at me like waves to a beach.
Pieces of this one kept coming
to mind since since the party.
You evoked it by
your duplication.
Enhancements
are still coming.
>> WELCOME TO THE PARTY!
>>
>>> If UCP is what you say it is KP
>>
>> If you say it is . . .
>> I guess it must be!
>>
>>> it must be the most frustrating situationfor you with it taking hold
>>> with so few.
>>
>> Yessence!
>>
>> On the other hand, it has brought
>> me so many moments of pure joy!
>>
>> I was crazy to think that crazy people
>> would even *WANT* to go sane, much
>> less *DO* something hard to get there.
> But there are many -
Wonderful!
Tell as many
as you can!
>hanging out in the Sannyas world for several years
>showed me there are many that genuinely want to move.
Way Cool!
One of my teachers was with Leary at Millbrook, and
Bagwan in Poona coffee shops before he was famous.
I like Bagwan a lot. I've hung out at the Yes Center in
LA and done some meditations. I like many Sannyasans.
They seem natural for UCP, but are NOT LOOKING for
another form of mediation: they have too many now?
I don't know how to reach them. PLEASE SHOW ME!
>Will do real work to grow. No way near all of them - but enough.
Way Cool!
Please spread the good news to them!
>> However, there ARE a few hexceptions now,
>> and I work to create more . . . creating more!
>>
>> YOU among them!
>>
>> I can't claim victory yet, but
>> I am making some progress!
> You have it all online and a lot of documented sessions, comments and
> ideas all online accessible from any point on earth for those willing
> to try. That is great progress.
Yes, it's necessary.
It is a huge surge.
It's not sufficient.
That scares me.
>> I try to focus on that whenever I can.
>> I have failed repeatedly, but so far I
>> always got back to teaching UCP.
>>
>> net-prophet.net went online six
>> years ago today, Jan 19, 1999
>
> Happy birthday UCP ONLINE!!!
LET'S HAVE A PARTY!
>> It would be quite nice
>> to make a living at it.
>> It would help us all.
> It's more than possible!
LET IT *BE!*
>> Doing it at all is
>> unprecedented.
>>
>> Doing it better
>> is the future.
>>
>> ===================
>> WHAT MUST WHO DO
>> SO EVERYONE WINS?
>> ===================
>>
>>> Why is it taking hold with so few if it is so powerful -
>>
>> They mostly want SOMEONE *ELSE* to do it for them,
>> as they pay doctors and lawyers to stay live and free,
>> without being responsible for how they live and die.
>> The horrible crap going and an out of their mouths,
>> has been delegated as someone else's problem.
>>
>> They think that's the real solution.
>> They've never heard another theory,
>> much less personal accounts of wins.
>>
>> They are so disconnected from their s'elves,
>> it takes someone else to reach the real them.
>>
>> . . . Whoever that is.
>>
>> They are looking for someone
>> TO *CONFIRM* THEIR ERRORS!
>> NOT make them do heavy lifting!
>>
>> They want you to back
>> up their hallucinations,
>> not dumpsterize them!
>>
>> And we UCPeons have not yet created
>> an Ideal Scene demonstration that others
>> will want to imagine themselves right into.
>>
>> ===================
>> WHAT MUST WHO DO
>> SO EVERYONE WINS?
>> ==================
>>
>> The public hasn't yet
>> walked into the party
>> and found themselves
>> perfectly welcome, yet.
>>
>> We can NOT MAKE them do it,
>> but we CAN MAKE it possible!
>>
>> Praying for rain will not help
>> if we have no seed to grow.
>>
>> Planting Plus Praying
>> trumps either one!
>>
>>> my doubt again!
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>> A recurring theme!
>>
>> When did you feel
>> like that before?
>>
>>> I need someone to do it with -
>>
>> Oooops! Hexcellent!
>>
>> That's a critical error,
>> which stopped me
>> for many years too!
>>
>> But now you SEE it,
>> and have clearly
>> identified it as a
>> problem to you.
>>
>> When did you feel
>> like that before?
>>
>> You *NEED* to be able
>> to DO UCP by yourself
> OK - I'll keep trying.
You're doing
fine already!
>> Having someone else
>> to DO UCP with makes
>> your party even better!
> That would be nice.
You have someone!
>> But you gotta get
>> your party going
>> on your own!
>>
>> Even if it's a
>> bummer to
>> be there!
>>
>> Congratulations!
>>
>> IT'S YOUR PARTY!
>> Cry if you want to!
>>
>>> difficult on my own but I will keep trying.
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>> LOOK AT the difficulty.
>>
>> LOOK before to see
>> similar situations.
>>
>> LOOK ahead for
>> possible solutions.
>>
>> You walked right into my party
>> and acted perfectly at home!
>> It didn't seem difficult at all!
>>
>>> Did a session today - a little one on the tube on the way to work.
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>>> I hit some point where I felt a reaction in my body - some anxiety.
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>> When did you feel
>> like that before?
>>
>>> I could see my need to be controlling things around me.
>>
>> NEW PERCEPTION!
>>
>> Controlling Bodies
>
> Not so new but seen with some clarity.
>>
>>> I'm a control freak - wow - new awareness.
>>
>> SHIFT!
>>
>> YESSENCE!
>>
>> NEW UNDERSTANDING!
>>
>> YOU'RE LEAPING ALONG!
>
> :-) I wish - feel more like... shufling.
The leap from snoring
to shuffling is huge!
It goes all the way
from stop to start!
A universe away!
That's the gulf that
few have crossed!
>> You are trying to control others,
>> because you can't control yourself.
>>
>> Or perhaps you can't stop
>> controlling yourself to play
>> a compulsive script again!
> Yes yes.
> I wish I had the control enough to let go of control more often.
I guess you either have to
summon superhuman effort,
and force yourself to relax,
or relax and submit to being
helplessly out of control: in
the hands of a control freak.
>> Either way it's SUBSTITUTE.
>
> OK
>
>>
>>> Well not so new but I saw it clearer -
>>
>> Better *IS* Better!
>> Best is on the way.
>> BRING IT ON NOW!
>>
>>> like I was suddenly looking at myself from above.
>>
>> From a higher awareness! :-)
>>
>> *SHIFT!* into *SURPRISE*
>>
>> Ooooops! . . . WOW!
>>
>>
>> O
>> --- )
>> >>
>>
>>> Been this way since I remember.
>>
>> OK! Until you remember a before that,
>> or change your mind about it now . . .
>> you will likely think that's actually YOU.
>>
>>> I feel out of control inside
>>
>> CREATED
>> UNCAUSING
>> UNKNOWABLE
>
> Ok
>
>>
>>> and I feel deeply uncomfortable with this,
>>
>> OK!
>>
>> THAT'S THE OPTIMUM RESONSE!
>>
>> THAT'S THE GRAND PRIZE FOR
>> THE QUEST YOU JUST PASSED!
>>
>> That proves you are here,
>> Connected, and Can't Hide
>> from your own Uncausing!
>
> OK
> Uncausing? What does it mean?
>
>>
>> WAY TO GO!
>>
>> *YOU WIN!*
>>
>>> so I seek to control outside.
>>
>> SUBSTITUTE = DO SOMETHING ELSE IN STEAD.
>>
>>> Makes me uptight - unable to play - to express freely.
>>
>> YOU SEE that YOU are doing that to YOU! WAY COOL!
>>
>> I suffered grieviously from that.
>> It's part of what drove me to ucp.
>> UCP continuously improves your
>> ability to play and express freely.
>>
>> Sometimes I'm still
>> a social idiot, but
>> sometimes ! sh!ne!
>
> That is beautiful - your willingness to be the idiot lets you shine!
:-)
>> At each new tone level
>> you have more choice.
> Wonderful! That is appealing - more flexibility and choice.
Yes. You start seeing new
results and options right away.
>>> To busy controlling.
>>
>> More sub-death Compulsive Activity,
>> which basically accomplishes . . .
>> keeping you below death.
>>
>>> Watched my girlfriend in the sitting room tonight - otherhousemates
>>> around. I was angry with her - already -
>>
>> OK!
>>
>>> she was being an 'idiot' - overdoing things -talking too loud - showing
>>> off - whatever.
>>
>> WHO does she remind you of?
>>
>> How old were you then?
>
> OK - I get the idea - I'll look
Hexcellent!
>> Compare yourself then to now.
>
> OK
>
>>
>>> I wanted to control her - stop being an IDIOT!
>>
>> OK! Controlling Bodies.
>>
>> You are seeing your own
>> changing tone level and
>> intentions much better!
>
> Oh good.
>
>>
>> Compare her to you!
>>
>> When were you an idiot?
>> Compare that to your now.
>>
>>> and start acting the way I want!
>>
>> When you can do that for yourself,
>> those other idiots won't bother you
>> nearly as much as they used to!
>>
>> You'll be far too busy being you
>> to pay much attention to IDIOTS
>> like you used to be, before you
>> on second thought better of it.
>>
>>> Everyone start being the way I want -
>>
>> Hexcellent
>> Ideal Scene!
>>
>> GO FOR IT!
>>
>> START WITH
>> YOURS*ELF!
>
> :-) :-)
>
>
>>
>> Wake up from there!
>> Work up from there!
>>
>>> oh but I'm not really sure what that should be.
>>
>> OK!
>>
>> Lets zero in on it . . .
>> HOW do YOU want it
>> FOR YOURSELF NOW?
> More flexible - more flow - more options - laughter - feelings!!
> Creating fun and play around me more and more often. Feeling I am
> doing something significant inline with my deepest desire/purpose.
FANTASTIC!
What a wonderful list!
Those are all things
YOU GIVE YOURSELF
. . . THROUGH UCP!
You can get them
all for yourself
by yourself.
You can also share them if
you have willing company.
>>> It's late - I'm going to bed.
>>
>> Way Cool!
>>
>> FROM *LOST* TO *LOTS!*
>>
>> You deserve a great rest
>> of the universe forever!
>>
>>> KP - you're a star!
>>
>> YESSENCE!
>>
>> A BINARY!
>> FOR NOW!
>>
>> MORE SUPER NOVAS
>> *COMING SOON* TO A
>> UNIVERSE NEAR YOU!!
>>
>>> Night,
>>
>> God Day!
>>
>>> Richard
>>
>> I've been rethinking about our
>> telephone encounter on the 12th.
>> So much happened so fast I'm still
>> integrating and understanding it.
>>
>> It was one of the few *PERFECT*
>> experiences I can recall having.
>
> Beautiful!
>
>>
>> There was nothing annoying
>> or frustrating or unresolved,
>> [for me at least!] Of course,
>> that had a lot to do with my
>> tone level, which was up
>> around PLAY, or higher.
>
> Yes - it was way up! You were high and playing -
>I got your energy and was lifted.
Me too! And then you lifted me higher!
I was magic before you entered the mix.
Watching you try to describe midwifing
your own birth while I was cracking my
me shells to make an us omlette once
again was *PERFECT!* One voice in the
distance is a loon nut, but two voices
are a chorus, and at least twice as
likely to entrance a third to sing.
I still feel very strongly that things were
shifting profoudly in my universe . . .
before you mixed in, then put another
universe online in the RESONANCE.
*OUR* UNIVERSE SHIFTED *OUT* OF
UNEXISTENCE AND DISCONNECTION!
THE TUNE-IN-G! FORKS SING LOUD!
>> I wasn't frustrated as 5 or 6
>> telephones died and were
>> replaced on the fly, without
>> interrupting the conversation,
>> because we stayed connected!
> I was frustrated but your lack of being affected by it made it much
> less frustrating.
Hexcellent!
>> You only get your attention stuck
>> on the obstacles if they stop you.
>>
>> So we didn't let them stop us.
>> We just flowed around them.
>
> Yes!
>
>>
>> My attention stayed
>> right on my intention!
>>
>> I don't normally function at
>> that tone level, but when I
>> do get up there, I remember
>> WHAT I AM DOING AND WHY!
>>
>> IT'S ALWAYS A BLESSING!
> OH YES! It such a beautiful reminder
>to play around up there for a while.
Having you tune in to wow was
like opening another window!
You doubled my perfect view!
I STILL HEAR A RESONANCE
IN MY UNIVERSE WHICH WAS
NOT THERE BEFORE THE PARTY:
A SYMPATHETIC GOOD VIBRATION
I THINK IT'S THE CARRIER WAVE
OF TELEPATHIC PROPAGATION.
The silent universe
stirs in it's sleep.
>> It's kind of like re-encountering
>> one of my higher sElfs for a long
>> overdue visit, debrief, and plan.
>>
>> That's hextremely important.
> Indeed - I think I am overdue a visit or two.
Capodimonte!
>> I re-orient to importances
>> which I may forget about
>> during my lower tones,
>> but are still very there.
>
> Yes!
>
>>
>> I think our recent party interaction
>> would traditionally be described as
>> Shakti-Pat, or divine transmission
>> from the guru to the chela/seeker.
>>
>> I would describe it more accurately as
>> Shakti-Pate, as in emotionaliver pate!
>> The river of energy connected me to
>> the source of life much more closely!
>> It streamed through me right TO YOU!
> It did.
It baptized us both, once again,
and made us knew in the lord!
>> You got me at my best, or close to it.
>
> I think so.
>
>> I was tripping on mushrooms [a gift
>> from a dead friend!], hemp [a gift
>> from live friend!], and a *$3* Gold
>> Medal Winner Cabernet Sauvignon
>> Wine [a gift from *YOU!*] *WOW!*
> Nice - I definitely popped up in the middle of a party :-)
The center of joyous attention!
A sElf-ressurecting baby Jesus,
reborn from ashes of disaster!
with a knowing little chuckle! :-)
>> YOUR TIMING WAS PERFECT!
>> WELCOME TO YOUR PARTY!
>
> Seems so.
>
>>
>> You got the me *I* LOVE to hang with,
>> when he gets time off from senseless
>> waste and stupidity to party, and I can
>> get time off from that same job to play.
> Yes - I love to hang out with me when I'm there too.
> Psychedelics can create such an opening.
yEssence!
>> YOU MADE IT *SO* MUCH BETTER!
>>
>> If it was Shocking and Confusing to you,
>> WAY COOL! Every Full Circle has them!
> A little - but I just took it as it was and appreciated that.
Hexactly!
>I was thrilled to feel someone being alive
My thoughts hexactly!
You've been run over,
and are wondering what
the fuck just hit you . . .
YOU FEEL PAIN!
YOU'RE ALIVE!
We're so similar!
>even if we were on very different levels.
????
WE'RE ON THE SAME PATH!
WE'RE GOING STRAIGHT UP!
The are two basic groups:
The stopped and the moving.
Most people are stopped and stuck.
They may talk a lot about how fast
they are moving but its all a blur
caused by spinning in circles.
That's exactly where they have
been from day one, and they
have no clue they're not
moving anywhere at all.
The blur where you were
is what's coming up next
as you are still right here.
BUT YOU MOVED!
CONGRATULATIONS!
YOU'RE A WINNER!
YOU WON A
NEW GAME!
>> You have a new view!
>> COMPARE ME TO YOU!
>>
>> Take what you like
>> . . . leave the rest!
>>
>> Psychedelics are so valuable because
>> they reveal so many possibilities . . . as
>> well as so many suppressed actualities!
>
> Absolutely
>
>>
>> They take you for a visit
>> and bring you back again,
>> but you still have all those
>> wild memories to integrate!
>
> Yes yes.
>
>>
>> It's somewhat like fasting.
>
> I must do more. I did 3 days in Thailand last year -
Those are the hardest.
Your metabolism is shifting
over to ketosis and not eating.
It gets easier and more stable
after that, if you drink your urine.
>and my mind did get so clear,
Yessence!
The clarity and tranquility
is hauntingly addictive.
>but the food addiction was strong -
>confronting the big W-HOLE was difficult.
URINE FASTING IS EASY!
I don't water fast now.
>> I did a lot of fasting in the late 70's.
>> I got really weak, and REALLY HIGH!
>> I was 20+ pounds BELOW my lean
>> mean high school running weight.
>> My rest pulse was down to 38, but
>> I felt a had lots of time, because
>> everything seemed SO SLOW I
>> could *SEE* it as it went by.
>>
>> MY MIND WAS *SO* SHARP! +
>> MY ATTENTION SO FOCUSED!
>>
>> I put together the first UCP Chart
>> during those fasts because I could
>> SEE things that were invisible before.
>>
>> I had shifted to a NEW VIEWPOINT in
>> which sex and food, two of my most
>> incessant motives for doing anything,
>> simply ceased to exist in MY *NOW.*
>>
>> That frees LOTS of attention!
>> Which changes quite a bit!
>> My mind was keenly razor
>> sharp, and my time free.
>>
>> That new viewpoint
>> was not permanent.
>> When I ended my fast,
>> I came back down from
>> that very high tone level,
>> fell in love with food again,
>> got hornier than before, etc,
>>
>> but I brought the chart and
>> my understanding with me!
> Fantastic. I wish the chart had a bit more
>explanation though - it is very crytic to me.
So do I!
But that's WAY DOWN
on the UCPriority list.
>> That changed everything!
>>
>> NOW WE *HAVE* THE MAP!
>>
>> That soon led to the
>> Upward Climbing Path!
>>
>> I have been slowly climbing
>> back up the mountain again,
>> this time to stay for keeps.
>>
>> Plus I'm bringing friends!
>> THAT'S THE WAY TO GO!
>
> Wonderful!
>
>>
>> My first acid trip got me
>> all the way up to APATHY.
>> It was a remarkable trip!
>> I had never been there!
>>
>> I plunged back down to
>> the murky depths again,
>> and stayed for many years,
>>
>> but slowly began climbing
>> up again by *DOING* UCP!
> I did a lot of tripping from 16 to 25 - was a happening scene in UK
> from 88. I was lucky to turn 16 and it was just being born.
Way Cool!
>I leant a lot from it.
You learned a lot from WHO? :-)
>The impressions trips left me with penetrated my deepest core -
Ooooooh!
You went to the GOD place!
>and left me with a longing to penetrate again.
YESSENCE!
I'm hoping UCP is the stairway
back to permanet residency.
I'm not there yet,
but I'm way closer!
>Nothing satisfied me sooooooooo deeply. I came home.
YESSENCE!
to the whole universe.
When that's your home:
no one can throw you out!
>> Now I'm over half way there!
>> And my real don't-go-below
>> awareness is pushing tone 4!
> Very cool! Whereever tone 4 is :-)
COMMUNICATION on the Tone Scale.
A bit higher than zero. Easy to find.
>> Once Apathy was my dream!
>> Now I'm higher than that at a
>> tone I maintain consistently.
>>
>> Now I see even Enthusiasm
>> is still in the WASTE band.
>> It's not good enough now!
>>
>> But I still like scouting up ahead,
>> with psychedelics, urine fasting,
>> and talking to those who KNOW.
>> Plus Comparing ALL to my NOW!
>
> Great.
>
>>
>> My personal preference in people runs
>> strongly to those with psychedelic bent.
>> They have a toughness and breadth of
>> hexperience the untripped mostly lack.
> Mine too - but I have surrounded
>myself lately with people who are not.
>How did that happen!
It may well be a
conspiracy. :-)
>> Confronting or even welcoming
>> ALL that astonishing randomity
>> stretches the reality envelope
>> to include a lot more goodies!
>
> I agree.
>
>>
>> Their comfort zones are often so huge,
>> I don't have to be so careful with them.
>> Their range of intensity and breadth of
>> *I*MAGI*nation is a precious asset!
>
> Absolutely
>
>>
>> The untripped seem narrow minded.
>> They think their persistant surface
>> images reflect how things really are,
>> instead of just one option from far
>> too many bewildering possibilities.
>
> Yes
>
>>
>> Sure there are hexceptions,
>> but there is also a pattern.
>
> I agree completely.
>
>>
>> What you think is reality may be
>> . . . just another stuck picture.
>
> :-)
>
> Have you ever read any Christopher Hyatt -
>Undoing Yourself, Rebels and Devils,
>The Psychopaths Bible?
Never heard of it, but I *LOVE* the title!
That's the kind of bible we NEED for the
kind of peope we HAVE: Psychopaths!
The bibles we HAVE are for blue
haired ladies to quote psalms.
>> Psychedelics are one way to test!
>> Physical injuries, pain, near death,
>> or died-and-came-back experiences
>> give you intense new viewpoints too,
>> but I'd rather do my tripping at cause,
>> and have a nice meal and a nap after!
>>
>> NOW WE HAVE BOTH BEEN TO THE RARE
>> UNCONSTRAINED CELEBRATION PRAYER
>> AND UNIVERSAL CONNECTION PARTY ON!
>>
>> LET'S MEET THERE FOR
>> MORE FUN AGAIN SOON!
>>
>> OR SOMEPLACE BETTER!
>>
>> THANKS FOR PLAYING!
>> THANKS FOR POSTING!
>>
>>
>> O
>> --- )
>>
> Thank you KP.
>
> Richard
THANKS
TOO YOU!
O
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NOW DISTRIBUTION<< com=""> wrote:
> HI KP,
HI!
>Thanks for taking the time to give me such a
>long and interesting reply - I appreciate that.
You're very welcome!
I spent 8 or 10 hours on it.
It was a wonderful day for me
since I found it SO interesting.
I've spent another 5 or more?
on this round. I'm still SEEING.
>> NOW YOU KNOW!
>>
>> Way Cool!
>>
>> Control over WHO?
>
> I will hold that question in mind.
>
>>
>> I love your transparent
>> "brokenangel" identity!
>
> Yes - I like it to. It fits.
>
>>
>> The broken angel
>> who heals himself
>> is MY Super-Hero.
>
> Cool - also mine.
>I'd love to be my own superhero.
THAT'S a fantasy that
can take you SO far.
Compare him to you!
You're complaining
you're flying so low
you hurt your knee.
I'M CRYING YOU'RE FLYING!
>> THAT is who
>> we all need!
>>
>> The Decended Master,
>> coming back from hell!
>
> Yes. A lovely metaphor.
Metaphor?
*MY LIFE!*
>> Bringing the Keys to the Kingdom . . .
>> formerly flushed down the toilet of life!
>
> :-)
They were in my pocket
when I won a big bet by
putting my head in the
toilet and flushing. :-)
I bet I could get
all the way to
the bottom!
*I WON!*
I'm gonna be rich when I
find that guy and collect!
PLUS I've cornered the
market on bragging rights:
it must be worth something.
>> Going from being broken to
>> taking a break is a long journey.
>>
>> UCP IS THE HEXPRESS ROUTE!
>
> I hope so.
>
>>
>> It's just as far, but you
>> get there much quicker!
>
> I'm naturally drawn to the most efficent means of doing things.
Good.
>Still even the efficient way
Is the best way,
as in only way.
>seems to be a huge mountain
Hexactly!
It SEEMS!
Because you have identifed
the way with the mountain.
The mountain is huge
but THE PATH IS UP!
>and my power to climb not enough.
If you rise at all,
you do have the
power to climb!
You're already moving!
Just keep climbing!
One step at a time!
>> If you're sleeping by the side of
>> the road, you might never arrive.
>> You might well never even move!
> That's true - or worse slip into the ditch beside the road.
Yes!
Leeches, cutthroats,
whinos and worse . . .
suicides, by whining!
>>> I have been doing a little UCP on and off,
>>
>> Way Cool!
>>
>> You have been DOING . . .
>>
>>> when I get little bits of time and I can actually
>>
>> Yessence!
>>
>> You CAN actually! YOU *DO!*
>>
>>> get my mind to be still enough to do something useful.
>>
>> Aha!
>>
>> I can help you a little bit right here.
>> WHO SAYS your mind must be still
>> before you can do UCP? NOT ME!
>
> OK - just makes it easier to focus for more than 10 mins on it.
OK!
>> Look at what IS!
>>
>> If your mind is all wound up
>> like a sex-crazed dog madly
>> humping your left leg . . .
>>
>> LOOK AT THAT!
>
> OK. I will.
>
>>
>> When did you feel like that before?
>>
>>> I did some on the tube as I was going to work today.
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>> YOU *DID!*
>>
>>> Doing it while I'm moving works for me -
>>
>> What works for you works for me!
>>
>>> when I'm walking or going somewhere.
>>
>> Any time you work ucp
>> . . . ucp works for you!
>
> OK - I need to do more - results are not obvious to me.
OK. Keep looking!
They are thrillingly
easy for me to see!
I think you were stuck in some valence
when you were posting a couple years ago,
I think you got that valence up to zero . . .
Got that zero, +-20, +-40, resonance going.
Sat oo the cusp of a valence choice looking,
and FOUND YOURSELF where you are now.
I've seen it before where you see the
social self, the valence the guy believes
and projects, get up near zero and then
he SEES that's NOT HIM, and that his
ACTUAL location is around -40 or so.
You've gotten to a deeper level of him.
That's a full circle completion of a small
game expanding to a much larger game.
>>> Sitting myself down and doing aproper focused session is hard.
>>
>> OK! Congratulations for discovering
>> that through actual personal testing!
>
> Thank you. :-)
>
>>
>> What felt like that before? Go there!
>>
>> What about an improper
>> unfocused session?
>>
>> Ever felt like that before?
>>
>>> Sitting myself down and doing aproper focused anything is hard -
>>
>> On the other hand, it also gave
>> you quite remarkable gains . . .
>>
>> What you do . . . is up to you!
>>
>>> my brain is just overstimulated.
>>
>> When was it like that before?
>>
>> What would "proper" stimulation be?
>>
>>> Needs meditation or something to slow it down -
>>
>> WHY slow it down?
>>
>> It needs UCP . . .
>> as in LOOKING AT
>> . . . going too fast.
>
> OK :-)
>
>>
>> Ever felt way too fast before?
>>
>>> meditation is hard - takes time and Ineed to go over that hump to get
>>> started!
>>
>> LOOK *AT* THE HUMP!
>> *THAT'S* YOUR START!
>>
>> That's where your
>> attention IS NOW!
>>
>>> Drugs are easier.
>>
>> OK!
>>
>> Start there!
>>
>> Do drugs!
>>
>> Not the addictive and
>> deadly pharmaceuticals,
>> just the psychedelics.
> Umm - it's been a while. I feel some fear of them and
>can't seem to find the appropriate space to do them now -
Maybe it was not
appropriate then.
>I have forgotten - feel stiffer than when I was younger.
>Still I may try again - easy to buy mushrooms here in London -
Way Cool!
>they sell on the streets in stalls - though
> the government are killing that one.
What DON'T governments kill?
>> COMPARE THEM TO
>> THE "NORMAL" YOU!
>
> Yes - good idea. I have many incredible LSD states to compare to.
FANTASTIC!
You have a huge treasure trove
of actual hexperience to mine!
A mother load of personal data.
>> "Repeat as necessary."
>>
>> Drugs give you new and
>> changing viewpoints to
>> compare with old ones.
> Absolutely. As you said the psychedelics are better. I was not
> referring to them. I take GHB - it's has a more alchohol type effect
> but without the toxic effects on the body.
OK! I don't know that one.
>> COMPARING those yields
>> increased Understanding.
>
> OK
>
>>
>> It's like changing mates,
>> without all the heartache!
>>
>> You learn so much
>> about your self.
>>
>> You have to do some
>> work to get some gain.
> Yes - ah there is my stumbling block.
Hexcellent!
You found it again!
Take a good look so
you can recognize it.
That might save a trip to
the store to buy another.
>>> Why can't meditation be as easy as taking some pill! or UCP.
>>
>> ????
>>
>> UCP *IS* MEDITATION!
>> OPT!MUMED!TAT!ON!
>
> :-)
>
>>
>> Its easier if you LOOK AT Difficulty,
>> instead of trying to Ignore it to see
>> something ELSE Hiding behind it.
>>
>> The difficulty is easy to see.
>>
>> Look at it!
>>
>> Looking for the "easy" way
>> is how people avoid UCP.
>>
>> Unfortunately for them,
>> the ONLY way that works
>> is the "HARD" way to go!
>
> I hear you.
>
>>
>> The easy way goes nowhere.
>> So they don't move at all.
>
> Yes
>
>>
>>> Anyway I'm where I am and
>>
>> YESSENCE!
>>
>> Your bewildered self-disclosure of
>> your disquieting self *KNOWLEDGE*
>> is so charmingly innocent and rare!
> A lovley compliment - thank you.
My pleasure to give!
I felt SO Honored to watch
your spiritual birth struggle.
It's SO RARE, and most of what I see
is thru usenet posts. To *HEAR* your
voice perfectly reflecting your words
gave me an incredible spiritual RUSH!
It's seems like a birth too, because
there's a new voice in my chorus: a
new note in the cosmic background.
>> SELF-KNOWLEDGE YOU *HAVE* NOW
>> marks you an uncomfortable winner!
>>
>> That's the best you can do now!
>>
>> You are *supposed* to be uncomfortable!
>> It's the sensible, sane, authentic reaction!
>
> OK
>
>>
>> The rest of the billions
>> are so far below you,
>> they don't even know
>> they have *NO CLUE!*
>>
>> They don't even suspect!
>>
>> That *IS* the sad and
>> uncomfortable truth.
>
> Seems so.
>
>>
>> BUT *YOU* MOVED!
>>
>> You KNOW something
>> is missing from your
>> own life equation.
>>
>> YOU ARE RISING BY
>> YOUR OWN EFFORT!
>>
>>> my brain is this way for now,but it's not satisfying me -
>>
>> OK!
>>
>> Sounds like you are up to
>> Demand for Improvement
>> on your own UCP Ability!
>>
>> Way Cool!
>>
>> You got it going on!
>> You want it better!
>> Hexcellent choice!
>>
>>> need to find a
>>
>>> way to make progress even with my brain this way.
>>
>> NOW you have the idea!
>>
>> You have to move on,
>> most especially when
>> you are all fucked up!
>>
>
> YEs
>
>> You need to find out:
>> you already found out.
>> You just forgot a bit! :-)
>
> I found out but have not found a way out.
WHO might that way out be?
>> HOW IS your brain now?
>>
>> Ever felt like that before?
>>
>>> Does UCP work really!
>>
>> What have YOU discovered
>> through YOUR personal test?
> I, through my limited use of your tool,
>have seen new things and delve
>around a bit in not so new stuff.
OK!
>I do not see yet if seeing this
>stuff changes any of it.
OK!
>I've discovered mostly things are very....
>soupy inside! and hard to verbalise!
NEW PERCEPTION!
I say that's a great big deal!
ANYTHING *YOU DISCOVER*
IS a big deal. Discovering
something CONNECTED TO
your actual life has obvious
potential for real progress.
MOVING A LITTLE IS
A *VERY* BIG DEAL!
Like a steam locomotive,
getting started is hardest.
Once it moves at all, no
matter how slowly, it picks
up more and more speed, as
long as you shovel the coal.
>> DOES UCP WORK FOR *YOU*
>> WHEN YOU ACTUALLY DO IT?
>
> Too early to say.
OK!
>>> or is it just the delusions of a mad man?
>>
>> What have YOU discovered?
>>
>> UCP may be much more than
>> the delusions of a mad man!
>>
>> However, those delusions
>> already made him much saner!
>> Now he has replaced them with
>> something slightly better, and he
>> plans to replace them again soon.
>>
>> You trade in your old viewpoints
>> for some brand new ones . . . and
>> get some CHANGE in the bargain!!
>>
>>> But the madman hits me - he makes sense - he is real!
>>
>> If you are talking about you, or me, or both . . . I AGREE!
>
> You.
>
>>
>> Saying something REAL
>> is what distinguishes my
>> communication from others,
>> and what attracts the attention
>> of those I most wish to reach!
>
> Yes indeed.
>
>>
>> I'm not the same old formless
>> gelatinous bland gray mush of
>> politically correct euphemisms!
>
> That - you are not.
>
>>
>> I HAVE MY OWN VIEWPOINT!
>
> Yep
>
>>
>> That's what I share here. :-)
>
> And thank you for sharing it KP.
Thanks for listening, and DOing!
And for posting your reports!
>> That's what people respond to,
>> even if only to robotically whine.
>>
>> Somehow, they feel I EXIST,
>> and they have some kind of
>> murky CONNECTION to me.
>> . . . That gets them going.
>>
>>> I don't see that often.
>>
>> I agree completely.
>>
>> How many showed
>> up for our party?
>>
>> That's ALL *I* could find!
>>
>
> :-)
>
>> It's not quite perfect yet, but
>> it's way better than nothing!
>>
>>> He's not perfect but he showshis inperfection so perfectly.
>>
>> AS DO YOU!
>>
>> The imperfection is not
>> nearly so important as
>> THE PERFECTION *IS!*
>>
>> A little perfection
>> goes a long way!
>>
>> You can mix it in, but
>> it still floats to the top.
>>
>> GIVE IN TO WIN!
>>
>>> It's a delight.
>>
>> My time with you was
>> completely delightful!
>>
>> I played you the applause from a
>> live performance of Beethoven's
>> ninth symphony, because I thought
>> you richly deserved if for what you
>> had clearly stated instantly before!
>>
>> I forgot what you said, but I know I felt
>> strongly it was a *PERFECT* statement!
>>
>> I wanted you to feel
>> how excited I was
>> for your success!
> I felt it!
!
>>
>> After you struggle so hard
>> for so long to dig yourself
>> out of a really deep hole,
>>
>> you find out you dug it yourself,
>> and it's called Pandora's Box . . .
>>
>> and you have just midwifed
>> your own conscious birth.
>>
>> Your name is Pandora, and
>> . . . You're the Daddy too!
>>
>> You fucked yourself again!
>> And got knocked up too!
>> No wonder you feel ill!
> Another wonderful metaphor -
Thanks for duplicating!
It made me happy too!
>- you are very good at them.
When I am TUNED IN to the universal they
keep coming at me like waves to a beach.
Pieces of this one kept coming
to mind since since the party.
You evoked it by
your duplication.
Enhancements
are still coming.
>> WELCOME TO THE PARTY!
>>
>>> If UCP is what you say it is KP
>>
>> If you say it is . . .
>> I guess it must be!
>>
>>> it must be the most frustrating situationfor you with it taking hold
>>> with so few.
>>
>> Yessence!
>>
>> On the other hand, it has brought
>> me so many moments of pure joy!
>>
>> I was crazy to think that crazy people
>> would even *WANT* to go sane, much
>> less *DO* something hard to get there.
> But there are many -
Wonderful!
Tell as many
as you can!
>hanging out in the Sannyas world for several years
>showed me there are many that genuinely want to move.
Way Cool!
One of my teachers was with Leary at Millbrook, and
Bagwan in Poona coffee shops before he was famous.
I like Bagwan a lot. I've hung out at the Yes Center in
LA and done some meditations. I like many Sannyasans.
They seem natural for UCP, but are NOT LOOKING for
another form of mediation: they have too many now?
I don't know how to reach them. PLEASE SHOW ME!
>Will do real work to grow. No way near all of them - but enough.
Way Cool!
Please spread the good news to them!
>> However, there ARE a few hexceptions now,
>> and I work to create more . . . creating more!
>>
>> YOU among them!
>>
>> I can't claim victory yet, but
>> I am making some progress!
> You have it all online and a lot of documented sessions, comments and
> ideas all online accessible from any point on earth for those willing
> to try. That is great progress.
Yes, it's necessary.
It is a huge surge.
It's not sufficient.
That scares me.
>> I try to focus on that whenever I can.
>> I have failed repeatedly, but so far I
>> always got back to teaching UCP.
>>
>> net-prophet.net went online six
>> years ago today, Jan 19, 1999
>
> Happy birthday UCP ONLINE!!!
LET'S HAVE A PARTY!
>> It would be quite nice
>> to make a living at it.
>> It would help us all.
> It's more than possible!
LET IT *BE!*
>> Doing it at all is
>> unprecedented.
>>
>> Doing it better
>> is the future.
>>
>> ===================
>> WHAT MUST WHO DO
>> SO EVERYONE WINS?
>> ===================
>>
>>> Why is it taking hold with so few if it is so powerful -
>>
>> They mostly want SOMEONE *ELSE* to do it for them,
>> as they pay doctors and lawyers to stay live and free,
>> without being responsible for how they live and die.
>> The horrible crap going and an out of their mouths,
>> has been delegated as someone else's problem.
>>
>> They think that's the real solution.
>> They've never heard another theory,
>> much less personal accounts of wins.
>>
>> They are so disconnected from their s'elves,
>> it takes someone else to reach the real them.
>>
>> . . . Whoever that is.
>>
>> They are looking for someone
>> TO *CONFIRM* THEIR ERRORS!
>> NOT make them do heavy lifting!
>>
>> They want you to back
>> up their hallucinations,
>> not dumpsterize them!
>>
>> And we UCPeons have not yet created
>> an Ideal Scene demonstration that others
>> will want to imagine themselves right into.
>>
>> ===================
>> WHAT MUST WHO DO
>> SO EVERYONE WINS?
>> ==================
>>
>> The public hasn't yet
>> walked into the party
>> and found themselves
>> perfectly welcome, yet.
>>
>> We can NOT MAKE them do it,
>> but we CAN MAKE it possible!
>>
>> Praying for rain will not help
>> if we have no seed to grow.
>>
>> Planting Plus Praying
>> trumps either one!
>>
>>> my doubt again!
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>> A recurring theme!
>>
>> When did you feel
>> like that before?
>>
>>> I need someone to do it with -
>>
>> Oooops! Hexcellent!
>>
>> That's a critical error,
>> which stopped me
>> for many years too!
>>
>> But now you SEE it,
>> and have clearly
>> identified it as a
>> problem to you.
>>
>> When did you feel
>> like that before?
>>
>> You *NEED* to be able
>> to DO UCP by yourself
> OK - I'll keep trying.
You're doing
fine already!
>> Having someone else
>> to DO UCP with makes
>> your party even better!
> That would be nice.
You have someone!
>> But you gotta get
>> your party going
>> on your own!
>>
>> Even if it's a
>> bummer to
>> be there!
>>
>> Congratulations!
>>
>> IT'S YOUR PARTY!
>> Cry if you want to!
>>
>>> difficult on my own but I will keep trying.
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>> LOOK AT the difficulty.
>>
>> LOOK before to see
>> similar situations.
>>
>> LOOK ahead for
>> possible solutions.
>>
>> You walked right into my party
>> and acted perfectly at home!
>> It didn't seem difficult at all!
>>
>>> Did a session today - a little one on the tube on the way to work.
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>>> I hit some point where I felt a reaction in my body - some anxiety.
>>
>> Hexcellent!
>>
>> When did you feel
>> like that before?
>>
>>> I could see my need to be controlling things around me.
>>
>> NEW PERCEPTION!
>>
>> Controlling Bodies
>
> Not so new but seen with some clarity.
>>
>>> I'm a control freak - wow - new awareness.
>>
>> SHIFT!
>>
>> YESSENCE!
>>
>> NEW UNDERSTANDING!
>>
>> YOU'RE LEAPING ALONG!
>
> :-) I wish - feel more like... shufling.
The leap from snoring
to shuffling is huge!
It goes all the way
from stop to start!
A universe away!
That's the gulf that
few have crossed!
>> You are trying to control others,
>> because you can't control yourself.
>>
>> Or perhaps you can't stop
>> controlling yourself to play
>> a compulsive script again!
> Yes yes.
> I wish I had the control enough to let go of control more often.
I guess you either have to
summon superhuman effort,
and force yourself to relax,
or relax and submit to being
helplessly out of control: in
the hands of a control freak.
>> Either way it's SUBSTITUTE.
>
> OK
>
>>
>>> Well not so new but I saw it clearer -
>>
>> Better *IS* Better!
>> Best is on the way.
>> BRING IT ON NOW!
>>
>>> like I was suddenly looking at myself from above.
>>
>> From a higher awareness! :-)
>>
>> *SHIFT!* into *SURPRISE*
>>
>> Ooooops! . . . WOW!
>>
>>
>> O
>> --- )
>> >>
>>
>>> Been this way since I remember.
>>
>> OK! Until you remember a before that,
>> or change your mind about it now . . .
>> you will likely think that's actually YOU.
>>
>>> I feel out of control inside
>>
>> CREATED
>> UNCAUSING
>> UNKNOWABLE
>
> Ok
>
>>
>>> and I feel deeply uncomfortable with this,
>>
>> OK!
>>
>> THAT'S THE OPTIMUM RESONSE!
>>
>> THAT'S THE GRAND PRIZE FOR
>> THE QUEST YOU JUST PASSED!
>>
>> That proves you are here,
>> Connected, and Can't Hide
>> from your own Uncausing!
>
> OK
> Uncausing? What does it mean?
>
>>
>> WAY TO GO!
>>
>> *YOU WIN!*
>>
>>> so I seek to control outside.
>>
>> SUBSTITUTE = DO SOMETHING ELSE IN STEAD.
>>
>>> Makes me uptight - unable to play - to express freely.
>>
>> YOU SEE that YOU are doing that to YOU! WAY COOL!
>>
>> I suffered grieviously from that.
>> It's part of what drove me to ucp.
>> UCP continuously improves your
>> ability to play and express freely.
>>
>> Sometimes I'm still
>> a social idiot, but
>> sometimes ! sh!ne!
>
> That is beautiful - your willingness to be the idiot lets you shine!
:-)
>> At each new tone level
>> you have more choice.
> Wonderful! That is appealing - more flexibility and choice.
Yes. You start seeing new
results and options right away.
>>> To busy controlling.
>>
>> More sub-death Compulsive Activity,
>> which basically accomplishes . . .
>> keeping you below death.
>>
>>> Watched my girlfriend in the sitting room tonight - otherhousemates
>>> around. I was angry with her - already -
>>
>> OK!
>>
>>> she was being an 'idiot' - overdoing things -talking too loud - showing
>>> off - whatever.
>>
>> WHO does she remind you of?
>>
>> How old were you then?
>
> OK - I get the idea - I'll look
Hexcellent!
>> Compare yourself then to now.
>
> OK
>
>>
>>> I wanted to control her - stop being an IDIOT!
>>
>> OK! Controlling Bodies.
>>
>> You are seeing your own
>> changing tone level and
>> intentions much better!
>
> Oh good.
>
>>
>> Compare her to you!
>>
>> When were you an idiot?
>> Compare that to your now.
>>
>>> and start acting the way I want!
>>
>> When you can do that for yourself,
>> those other idiots won't bother you
>> nearly as much as they used to!
>>
>> You'll be far too busy being you
>> to pay much attention to IDIOTS
>> like you used to be, before you
>> on second thought better of it.
>>
>>> Everyone start being the way I want -
>>
>> Hexcellent
>> Ideal Scene!
>>
>> GO FOR IT!
>>
>> START WITH
>> YOURS*ELF!
>
> :-) :-)
>
>
>>
>> Wake up from there!
>> Work up from there!
>>
>>> oh but I'm not really sure what that should be.
>>
>> OK!
>>
>> Lets zero in on it . . .
>> HOW do YOU want it
>> FOR YOURSELF NOW?
> More flexible - more flow - more options - laughter - feelings!!
> Creating fun and play around me more and more often. Feeling I am
> doing something significant inline with my deepest desire/purpose.
FANTASTIC!
What a wonderful list!
Those are all things
YOU GIVE YOURSELF
. . . THROUGH UCP!
You can get them
all for yourself
by yourself.
You can also share them if
you have willing company.
>>> It's late - I'm going to bed.
>>
>> Way Cool!
>>
>> FROM *LOST* TO *LOTS!*
>>
>> You deserve a great rest
>> of the universe forever!
>>
>>> KP - you're a star!
>>
>> YESSENCE!
>>
>> A BINARY!
>> FOR NOW!
>>
>> MORE SUPER NOVAS
>> *COMING SOON* TO A
>> UNIVERSE NEAR YOU!!
>>
>>> Night,
>>
>> God Day!
>>
>>> Richard
>>
>> I've been rethinking about our
>> telephone encounter on the 12th.
>> So much happened so fast I'm still
>> integrating and understanding it.
>>
>> It was one of the few *PERFECT*
>> experiences I can recall having.
>
> Beautiful!
>
>>
>> There was nothing annoying
>> or frustrating or unresolved,
>> [for me at least!] Of course,
>> that had a lot to do with my
>> tone level, which was up
>> around PLAY, or higher.
>
> Yes - it was way up! You were high and playing -
>I got your energy and was lifted.
Me too! And then you lifted me higher!
I was magic before you entered the mix.
Watching you try to describe midwifing
your own birth while I was cracking my
me shells to make an us omlette once
again was *PERFECT!* One voice in the
distance is a loon nut, but two voices
are a chorus, and at least twice as
likely to entrance a third to sing.
I still feel very strongly that things were
shifting profoudly in my universe . . .
before you mixed in, then put another
universe online in the RESONANCE.
*OUR* UNIVERSE SHIFTED *OUT* OF
UNEXISTENCE AND DISCONNECTION!
THE TUNE-IN-G! FORKS SING LOUD!
>> I wasn't frustrated as 5 or 6
>> telephones died and were
>> replaced on the fly, without
>> interrupting the conversation,
>> because we stayed connected!
> I was frustrated but your lack of being affected by it made it much
> less frustrating.
Hexcellent!
>> You only get your attention stuck
>> on the obstacles if they stop you.
>>
>> So we didn't let them stop us.
>> We just flowed around them.
>
> Yes!
>
>>
>> My attention stayed
>> right on my intention!
>>
>> I don't normally function at
>> that tone level, but when I
>> do get up there, I remember
>> WHAT I AM DOING AND WHY!
>>
>> IT'S ALWAYS A BLESSING!
> OH YES! It such a beautiful reminder
>to play around up there for a while.
Having you tune in to wow was
like opening another window!
You doubled my perfect view!
I STILL HEAR A RESONANCE
IN MY UNIVERSE WHICH WAS
NOT THERE BEFORE THE PARTY:
A SYMPATHETIC GOOD VIBRATION
I THINK IT'S THE CARRIER WAVE
OF TELEPATHIC PROPAGATION.
The silent universe
stirs in it's sleep.
>> It's kind of like re-encountering
>> one of my higher sElfs for a long
>> overdue visit, debrief, and plan.
>>
>> That's hextremely important.
> Indeed - I think I am overdue a visit or two.
Capodimonte!
>> I re-orient to importances
>> which I may forget about
>> during my lower tones,
>> but are still very there.
>
> Yes!
>
>>
>> I think our recent party interaction
>> would traditionally be described as
>> Shakti-Pat, or divine transmission
>> from the guru to the chela/seeker.
>>
>> I would describe it more accurately as
>> Shakti-Pate, as in emotionaliver pate!
>> The river of energy connected me to
>> the source of life much more closely!
>> It streamed through me right TO YOU!
> It did.
It baptized us both, once again,
and made us knew in the lord!
>> You got me at my best, or close to it.
>
> I think so.
>
>> I was tripping on mushrooms [a gift
>> from a dead friend!], hemp [a gift
>> from live friend!], and a *$3* Gold
>> Medal Winner Cabernet Sauvignon
>> Wine [a gift from *YOU!*] *WOW!*
> Nice - I definitely popped up in the middle of a party :-)
The center of joyous attention!
A sElf-ressurecting baby Jesus,
reborn from ashes of disaster!
with a knowing little chuckle! :-)
>> YOUR TIMING WAS PERFECT!
>> WELCOME TO YOUR PARTY!
>
> Seems so.
>
>>
>> You got the me *I* LOVE to hang with,
>> when he gets time off from senseless
>> waste and stupidity to party, and I can
>> get time off from that same job to play.
> Yes - I love to hang out with me when I'm there too.
> Psychedelics can create such an opening.
yEssence!
>> YOU MADE IT *SO* MUCH BETTER!
>>
>> If it was Shocking and Confusing to you,
>> WAY COOL! Every Full Circle has them!
> A little - but I just took it as it was and appreciated that.
Hexactly!
>I was thrilled to feel someone being alive
My thoughts hexactly!
You've been run over,
and are wondering what
the fuck just hit you . . .
YOU FEEL PAIN!
YOU'RE ALIVE!
We're so similar!
>even if we were on very different levels.
????
WE'RE ON THE SAME PATH!
WE'RE GOING STRAIGHT UP!
The are two basic groups:
The stopped and the moving.
Most people are stopped and stuck.
They may talk a lot about how fast
they are moving but its all a blur
caused by spinning in circles.
That's exactly where they have
been from day one, and they
have no clue they're not
moving anywhere at all.
The blur where you were
is what's coming up next
as you are still right here.
BUT YOU MOVED!
CONGRATULATIONS!
YOU'RE A WINNER!
YOU WON A
NEW GAME!
>> You have a new view!
>> COMPARE ME TO YOU!
>>
>> Take what you like
>> . . . leave the rest!
>>
>> Psychedelics are so valuable because
>> they reveal so many possibilities . . . as
>> well as so many suppressed actualities!
>
> Absolutely
>
>>
>> They take you for a visit
>> and bring you back again,
>> but you still have all those
>> wild memories to integrate!
>
> Yes yes.
>
>>
>> It's somewhat like fasting.
>
> I must do more. I did 3 days in Thailand last year -
Those are the hardest.
Your metabolism is shifting
over to ketosis and not eating.
It gets easier and more stable
after that, if you drink your urine.
>and my mind did get so clear,
Yessence!
The clarity and tranquility
is hauntingly addictive.
>but the food addiction was strong -
>confronting the big W-HOLE was difficult.
URINE FASTING IS EASY!
I don't water fast now.
>> I did a lot of fasting in the late 70's.
>> I got really weak, and REALLY HIGH!
>> I was 20+ pounds BELOW my lean
>> mean high school running weight.
>> My rest pulse was down to 38, but
>> I felt a had lots of time, because
>> everything seemed SO SLOW I
>> could *SEE* it as it went by.
>>
>> MY MIND WAS *SO* SHARP! +
>> MY ATTENTION SO FOCUSED!
>>
>> I put together the first UCP Chart
>> during those fasts because I could
>> SEE things that were invisible before.
>>
>> I had shifted to a NEW VIEWPOINT in
>> which sex and food, two of my most
>> incessant motives for doing anything,
>> simply ceased to exist in MY *NOW.*
>>
>> That frees LOTS of attention!
>> Which changes quite a bit!
>> My mind was keenly razor
>> sharp, and my time free.
>>
>> That new viewpoint
>> was not permanent.
>> When I ended my fast,
>> I came back down from
>> that very high tone level,
>> fell in love with food again,
>> got hornier than before, etc,
>>
>> but I brought the chart and
>> my understanding with me!
> Fantastic. I wish the chart had a bit more
>explanation though - it is very crytic to me.
So do I!
But that's WAY DOWN
on the UCPriority list.
>> That changed everything!
>>
>> NOW WE *HAVE* THE MAP!
>>
>> That soon led to the
>> Upward Climbing Path!
>>
>> I have been slowly climbing
>> back up the mountain again,
>> this time to stay for keeps.
>>
>> Plus I'm bringing friends!
>> THAT'S THE WAY TO GO!
>
> Wonderful!
>
>>
>> My first acid trip got me
>> all the way up to APATHY.
>> It was a remarkable trip!
>> I had never been there!
>>
>> I plunged back down to
>> the murky depths again,
>> and stayed for many years,
>>
>> but slowly began climbing
>> up again by *DOING* UCP!
> I did a lot of tripping from 16 to 25 - was a happening scene in UK
> from 88. I was lucky to turn 16 and it was just being born.
Way Cool!
>I leant a lot from it.
You learned a lot from WHO? :-)
>The impressions trips left me with penetrated my deepest core -
Ooooooh!
You went to the GOD place!
>and left me with a longing to penetrate again.
YESSENCE!
I'm hoping UCP is the stairway
back to permanet residency.
I'm not there yet,
but I'm way closer!
>Nothing satisfied me sooooooooo deeply. I came home.
YESSENCE!
to the whole universe.
When that's your home:
no one can throw you out!
>> Now I'm over half way there!
>> And my real don't-go-below
>> awareness is pushing tone 4!
> Very cool! Whereever tone 4 is :-)
COMMUNICATION on the Tone Scale.
A bit higher than zero. Easy to find.
>> Once Apathy was my dream!
>> Now I'm higher than that at a
>> tone I maintain consistently.
>>
>> Now I see even Enthusiasm
>> is still in the WASTE band.
>> It's not good enough now!
>>
>> But I still like scouting up ahead,
>> with psychedelics, urine fasting,
>> and talking to those who KNOW.
>> Plus Comparing ALL to my NOW!
>
> Great.
>
>>
>> My personal preference in people runs
>> strongly to those with psychedelic bent.
>> They have a toughness and breadth of
>> hexperience the untripped mostly lack.
> Mine too - but I have surrounded
>myself lately with people who are not.
>How did that happen!
It may well be a
conspiracy. :-)
>> Confronting or even welcoming
>> ALL that astonishing randomity
>> stretches the reality envelope
>> to include a lot more goodies!
>
> I agree.
>
>>
>> Their comfort zones are often so huge,
>> I don't have to be so careful with them.
>> Their range of intensity and breadth of
>> *I*MAGI*nation is a precious asset!
>
> Absolutely
>
>>
>> The untripped seem narrow minded.
>> They think their persistant surface
>> images reflect how things really are,
>> instead of just one option from far
>> too many bewildering possibilities.
>
> Yes
>
>>
>> Sure there are hexceptions,
>> but there is also a pattern.
>
> I agree completely.
>
>>
>> What you think is reality may be
>> . . . just another stuck picture.
>
> :-)
>
> Have you ever read any Christopher Hyatt -
>Undoing Yourself, Rebels and Devils,
>The Psychopaths Bible?
Never heard of it, but I *LOVE* the title!
That's the kind of bible we NEED for the
kind of peope we HAVE: Psychopaths!
The bibles we HAVE are for blue
haired ladies to quote psalms.
>> Psychedelics are one way to test!
>> Physical injuries, pain, near death,
>> or died-and-came-back experiences
>> give you intense new viewpoints too,
>> but I'd rather do my tripping at cause,
>> and have a nice meal and a nap after!
>>
>> NOW WE HAVE BOTH BEEN TO THE RARE
>> UNCONSTRAINED CELEBRATION PRAYER
>> AND UNIVERSAL CONNECTION PARTY ON!
>>
>> LET'S MEET THERE FOR
>> MORE FUN AGAIN SOON!
>>
>> OR SOMEPLACE BETTER!
>>
>> THANKS FOR PLAYING!
>> THANKS FOR POSTING!
>>
>>
>> O
>> --- )
>>
> Thank you KP.
>
> Richard
THANKS
TOO YOU!
O
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